#### Help Forum

1. 22 Feb '05 20:37
i recently got my first rating on this site it was 1505, since then i have claimed 2 wins on time after the first one my rating went to 1488 and on the next one it went to 1475.can anyone help me with this strange problem?
2. 22 Feb '05 21:19
I just won a game. Why has my rating gone down?
The rating calculation (see below) means that until you complete 20 games (i.e. while you still have a provisional rating), it is possible for your rating to go down even when you win a game.

How is my rating calculated?
When you join, you are given a rating of 1200.

If you enter into a rated game, your rating will be recalculated on its completion so long as at least two moves have been made by each player.

Note: Until you have completed 20 games your rating may go down even when you win a game!

Until you complete 20 games, you will have a provisional rating. This rating is calculated as the average of all the games you have played. Each game is scored as being your opponent's rating (for a draw), your opponent's rating plus 400 (for a win), or your opponent's rating minus 400 (for a loss). If your opponent is also on a provisional rating, then the 400s above become 200s. If your opponent has played fewer than five games then their rating is treated as 1200 when calculating your rating.

Players are rated using the following formula:

New Rating = Old Rating + K * (Score - Win Expectancy)

K is a constant (32 for 0-2099, 24 for 2100-2399, 16 for 2400 and above)

Score is 1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw and 0 for a loss.

The Win Expectancy is calculated using the following formula :

Win Expectancy = 1 / (10^((OpponentRating-YourRating)/400)+1)

The Win Expectancy is used in the rating calculation but is interesting on its own. For example, the calculation below is for a rating difference of 200. This shows that if you have a rating 200 points higher than another player, you can expect to beat them, on average, three times for each four games played.

Win Expectancy = 1 / (10^(-200/400)+1) = 0.76

Note: ^ = "to the power of", e.g. 2^3=8.

If you have a non-provisional rating and you play a provisional-rated player, then you receive (or lose) only half the number of rating points you would normally. If the provisionally-rated player has played fewer than five games, then their rating is treated as 1200 when calculating your rating.
3. 23 Feb '05 20:43
it happened now for the third time in a row.i checkmated my opponent and my rating went down to 1470.this cant be normal
4. 23 Feb '05 21:36
See my previous post, it's also in the FAQ
5.  orfeo
Missing 285 + 1
24 Feb '05 00:31
Originally posted by BrainDrain
it happened now for the third time in a row.i checkmated my opponent and my rating went down to 1470.this cant be normal
It IS normal, because the people you are beating are either:

1. More than 400 points below you, or
2. More than 200 points below you and also provisional.

Basically the system is not prepared to give you much credit for beating someone ranked that low. Even if you weren't provisional you'd only get 1 or 2 points for these wins.

The changes will be less dramatic as the number of games you play increases, but until you have 20 games under your belt this will continue to happen when you beat people ranked a lot lower than you.

If you lose to someone more than 400 points ABOVE you, then you rating will go up at the moment, so it works both ways.