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Is it possible that a rate, say 1700, gives a lower rank now than say one year ago. I believe that I have noticed just that, and it could be due to the RHP overall rating tends to increase. Does it?
Originally posted by dsmfireOverall site rating won't increase, because RHP is a 'closed' system. (For every plus point, there will be a minus point.)
Is it possible that a rate, say 1700, gives a lower rank now than say one year ago. I believe that I have noticed just that, and it could be due to the RHP overall rating tends to increase. Does it?
Originally posted by English TalI see your point. Then how come that my highest rating (some months ago)now is some 60-70 ratings lower? Just a matter of statistics and natural variations?
Overall site rating won't increase, because RHP is a 'closed' system. (For every plus point, there will be a minus point.)
However... treading very carefully here... the higher rated end of the tables could be skewed by players striving to gain a higher rating by fair means or foul. The lower ranks will be reduced accordingly.
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Originally posted by dsmfire60 or 70 players could have skipped above your rating artificially😠 Approximate, of course. (This would mean that a lower rated player would increase rating by 60-70, for no extra effort whatsoever!)
I see your point. Then how come that my highest rating (some months ago)now is some 60-70 ratings lower? Just a matter of statistics and natural variations?
Originally posted by English TalI'm not sure of this...
Overall site rating won't increase, because RHP is a 'closed' system. (For every plus point, there will be a minus point.)
Originally posted by English TalIs it not possible, indeed probable that higher rated players who cheat then get banned having reached 2200 will slowly depress ratings as they have somehow taken 1000 points permanently out of the system.
Overall site rating won't increase, because RHP is a 'closed' system. (For every plus point, there will be a minus point.)
However... treading very carefully here... the higher rated end of the tables could be skewed by players striving to gain a higher rating by fair means or foul. The lower ranks will be reduced accordingly.
(2200 now no longer shows on page one)
Originally posted by FabianFnasFair comment.
I'm not sure of this...
When (1) no new members are introduced in the system, and (2) the same number of rating points are exchanged (which not is the case in ratings over 2100) then I agree with you.
But (1) and (2) makes this balance uneven.
To be sure that 1700 rating points is always the same skill, the average rating of all active players sh ...[text shortened]... l then, I don't think 1700 in rating will have the same constant skill during lengtly times.
Originally posted by English TalYou're quite right, the RHP rating system is closed. Therefore the rating has a life of its own, doesn't obay the rules of the worldwide rating systm of ELO nor national rating system.
Fair comment.
The site still remains a closed one, however, even though there isn't always a consistent result allowing for higher rateds and provisionals etc etc.
The gradual degradation of rating still remains an issue.
Originally posted by Dragon FireIt's a closed system, so ultimately it depends on when the 'offended' player chooses to report; naturally this will only be when the player's rating appears to be depressed.
Is it not possible, indeed probable that higher rated players who cheat then get banned having reached 2200 will slowly depress ratings as they have somehow taken 1000 points permanently out of the system.
So if we had 1000 players average rating 1200 and banned 20 players of average rating 2200 we have removed 20000 points split between 980 players s ...[text shortened]... he bottom cause the opposite asdo players who just disappear leaving 100s of games to time out.
Originally posted by English Tali see what you mean.
Overall site rating won't increase, because RHP is a 'closed' system. (For every plus point, there will be a minus point.)
However... treading very carefully here... the higher rated end of the tables could be skewed by players striving to gain a higher rating by fair means or foul. The lower ranks will be reduced accordingly.
(2200 now no longer shows on page one)
Originally posted by FabianFnasI have been thinking about this issue for a while (almost 6 months 🙂 ), and I now think I have the answer to this question. For it is a phenomenon, overall site rating DOES increase.
You're quite right, the RHP rating system is closed. Therefore the rating has a life of its own, doesn't obay the rules of the worldwide rating systm of ELO nor national rating system.