Originally posted by greenpawn34"hang on, lads. I've got a great idea..."
This was the sting.
Wyerstrass looked at the games of Wormwood and thought this will be easy
when instead he should have been looking at the games of Woodworm.
or
Wyerstrass looked at the games of Woodworm and thought this will be easy
when instead he should have been looking at the games of Wormwood.
Originally posted by greenpawn34My next name will be Woodwood or Wormworm. There has to be some luck in those words.
This was the sting.
Wyerstrass looked at the games of Wormwood and thought this will be easy
when instead he should have been looking at the games of Woodworm.
or
Wyerstrass looked at the games of Woodworm and thought this will be easy
when instead he should have been looking at the games of Wormwood.
Originally posted by Fat LadyMy automated "top 3" code can't use Fritz since it's not a UCI engine. But for what it's worth, here is Rybka 2.3.2 at 30 seconds per move, starting at move 16.
I hope someone with access to a recent version of Fritz will be able to post a Fritz match-up analysis of this game soon, just so we can see how well both players played.
White:
Top 1: 34/60 = 56.7%
Top 2: 51/60 = 85.0%
Top 3: 57/60 = 95.0%
Black:
Top 1: 45/59 = 76.3%
Top 2: 53/59 = 89.8%
Top 3: 54/59 = 91.5%
Originally posted by VarenkaThanks very much for that. Does your "top 3" generator give detailed results? At one stage during this game someone sent me a message saying that both sides had played the #1 Fritz move for something like 15 moves in a row, and he correctly predicted the next three moves for either side! (and they weren't obvious or forced moves).
My automated "top 3" code can't use Fritz since it's not a UCI engine. But for what it's worth, here is Rybka 2.3.2 at 30 seconds per move, starting at move 16.
White:
Top 1: 34/60 = 56.7%
Top 2: 51/60 = 85.0%
Top 3: 57/60 = 95.0%
Black:
Top 1: 45/59 = 76.3%
Top 2: 53/59 = 89.8%
Top 3: 54/59 = 91.5%
Originally posted by Fat Ladycopy and paste this to your chessbase family product:
Thanks very much for that. Does your "top 3" generator give detailed results? At one stage during this game someone sent me a message saying that both sides had played the #1 Fritz move for something like 15 moves in a row, and he correctly predicted the next three moves for either side! (and they weren't obvious or forced moves).
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2007.09.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "woodworm"]
[Black "Weyerstrass"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2325"]
[BlackElo "2441"]
[Annotator "Deep Fritz 11 (30m)"]
[PlyCount "149"]
[EventDate "2007.??.??"]
{C07: French Tarrasch: 3...c5, 4 Ngf3 and 4 exd5 Qxd5} 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2
c5 4. Ngf3 cxd4 5. exd5 Qxd5 6. Bc4 Qd6 7. O-O Nf6 8. Nb3 Nc6 9. Nbxd4 Nxd4 10.
Nxd4 a6 11. Re1 Qc7 12. Qe2 Bc5 13. c3 h6 {last book move} 14. Nf5 {White
threatens to win material: Nf5xg7} (14. g3 Bxd4 15. cxd4 b5 $11) 14... Kf8 {
Black loses the right to castle} (14... O-O $5 15. Ng3 b5 $15) 15. Nd4 $11 Bd7
(15... Bd6 16. Nf3 $11) 16. Be3 (16. g3 Bd6 $11) 16... Bd6 (16... e5 17. Nc2
$14) 17. h3 $14 {Prevents intrusion on g4} e5 {Black threatens to win material:
e5xd4} 18. Nf3 {Black has an active position} e4 {Black threatens to win
material: e4xf3} 19. Nd2 Re8 {White has a cramped position} (19... Be5 20. f3
Bg3 21. Bf2 Bxf2+ 22. Kxf2 $14) 20. Bb3 g6 (20... Bh2+ 21. Kh1 Be5 22. Qc4 Qxc4
23. Nxc4 $16) 21. Nc4 {Black has an active position} (21. Rad1 b5 $14) 21...
Bb5 22. a4 Bxc4 23. Qxc4 Qxc4 24. Bxc4 {White has the pair of bishops} Kg7 25.
Rad1 {White threatens to win material: Rd1xd6} Be5 26. Bb6 Rc8 (26... h5 27. h4
$14) 27. Bb3 Rhe8 28. g3 {Controls f4} Bc7 {Black threatens to win material:
Bc7xb6} 29. Bd4 Be5 30. Be3 Re7 (30... Rcd8 31. Kg2 $14) 31. Kg2 {White king
safety dropped} Bb8 32. Re2 (32. h4 b5 $14) 32... g5 33. Bc2 Rce8 34. a5 Bc7 {
Black threatens to win material: Bc7xa5} (34... Be5 35. h4 $16) 35. Ra1 Bd6 (
35... Kg6 36. Ra4 $16) 36. Ra4 $16 Kg8 (36... Re6 37. Rd2 Be5 38. Rb4 $16 (38.
Bxe4 $143 Bxc3 39. bxc3 Nxe4 $11 (39... Rxe4 $143 40. Bd4 $16))) 37. Rd2 Be5
38. Rd1 (38. Bxe4 $6 Bxc3 39. bxc3 Nxe4 $11) 38... Kg7 (38... Bc7 39. Bc5 Re6
40. Rb4 $18) 39. Bc5 Rc7 40. Bb6 Rce7 41. Rd8 (41. Bd8 Re6 $16) 41... Rxd8 42.
Bxd8 Rd7 43. Bxf6+ Kxf6 44. Bxe4 Rd2 45. Rb4 {White threatens to win material:
Rb4xb7} (45. Bxb7 Rxb2 46. Bxa6 Bxc3 $16) 45... Bd6 46. Rxb7 {White has a new
protected passed pawn: c3} (46. Rd4 Rxd4 47. cxd4 Bc7 $14) 46... Bc5 $14 47.
Kf1 (47. b4 Bxf2 48. Kf3 h5 $14) 47... Rxf2+ (47... Bxf2 $2 48. Bd3 {
Deflection: f2} Bxg3 49. Bxa6 Rf2+ 50. Kg1 $18) 48. Ke1 Rh2 {Black threatens
to win material: Rh2xh3} 49. Bd3 Rxh3 50. Bxa6 (50. Kd2 Rxg3 51. Bxa6 g4 $11)
50... Rxg3 $11 51. b4 (51. Kd2 g4 $11) 51... Bd6 (51... Bg1 52. Kd2 Re3 53. c4
$11) 52. c4 $14 g4 (52... Be5 53. c5 $14) 53. c5 $16 {This push gains space}
Re3+ 54. Kf1 Rf3+ 55. Ke2 Bf4 56. Bc4 {White threatens to win material: Bc4xf7}
Re3+ 57. Kd1 Rc3 (57... g3 58. Rxf7+ Ke5 $16) 58. Rxf7+ $16 (58. Bxf7 g3 59.
Bd5 Rd3+ 60. Ke2 Rd2+ 61. Kf1 Rxd5 62. Kg2 Rd2+ 63. Kf3 g2 64. Kxf4 g1=Q 65.
Rb6+ Ke7 66. Rb7+ Kd8 67. Rb8+ Kc7 68. Rb7+ Kxb7 69. a6+ Kc6 70. a7 Rf2+ 71.
Ke4 Qe1+ 72. Kd3 Rf3+ 73. Kc2 Qe2+ 74. Kc1 Rf1🙄 58... Ke5 59. Ba6 g3 (59...
Bg5 60. Bb7 g3 61. a6 $16) 60. Bb7 Ra3 (60... Rc1+ 61. Ke2 Rc2+ 62. Kd3 $16)
61. Kc2 h5 $2 (61... Bg5 $142 $5 $16) 62. Rh7 $18 Kd4 (62... Kf6 63. Kb2 Ra4
64. Kb3 $18) 63. Kb2 Ra4 64. Kb3 Ra1 65. Rd7+ (65. Rxh5 $6 {is much weaker}
Rb1+ 66. Kc2 Rxb4 $11) 65... Ke3 66. Kc4 h4 (66... Ra2 67. Rh7 $18) 67. Rh7 Bg5
(67... h3 {does not solve anything} 68. Rxh3 Ke2 69. Rh4 $18) 68. Kb5 {White
plans a6} Kd4 (68... Bd8 $18 {a last effort to resist the inevitable}) 69. a6
Ra2 (69... Ke3 {doesn't improve anything} 70. Bd5 Bf4 71. Rxh4 $18) 70. Bh1 g2
(70... Ke5 {there is nothing else anyway} 71. c6 Bd8 $18) 71. Bxg2 $1 {
finishing the game.} Rxg2 72. c6 Rf2 (72... Bf6 $18 {the only chance to get
some counterplay}) 73. c7 Rf8 74. Kc6 Kc4 (74... Be3 {is no salvation} 75.
Rxh4+ Ke5 76. Kb7 $18) 75. b5 (75. b5 h3 76. Rxh3 $18) 1-0
there's no 15 fritz moves in a row. fritz agrees with the moves between 21 and 26 but I don't think that means much, it involves some captures and obvious moves.
and as a side note, woodworm has terrific ratings on FICS too.