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Originally posted by kmac27
children are able to learn FASTER!!! It may take a year to go from 1500 to 1650 but a kid that is still developing their brain at such a fast pace could do that in less than half the time.
MYTH! Throughout adulthood you are in a learning phase as long as you stay physically active. Knowledge is built on grand foundations that youth lacks. Youth is when you create neural connections or how you will learn, this should not be confused with learning. Saying that you are "smarter" when you are younger is just older people not willing to challenge or dedicate themselves to learning (read as lazy). Its a cop out. You can achieve great things at anytime in your life its whether or not you pounce on your opportunities.

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Originally posted by cheshirecatstevens
MYTH! Throughout adulthood you are in a learning phase as long as you stay physically active. Knowledge is built on grand foundations that youth lacks. Youth is when you create neural connections or how you will learn, this should not be confused with learning. Saying that you are "smarter" when you are younger is just older people not willing to ...[text shortened]... ieve great things at anytime in your life its whether or not you pounce on your opportunities.
I agree with this in some extent. Children are faster in learning. This is not a myth.
The myth is that this is entierly true. It isn't.

In adult age, I've noticed that I'm also able to learn heavy stuff in no time, given motivation and time.

Time is the keyword here: If I had as much time as when I was young then I can learn things a lot faster. Now I have responsabilities that force me to prioritize. Chess down and earning money up.

And motivation is another keyword: If my boss says that "Okay Fabian, I doble your salary if you prove in a months time you can *** and this with no errors" then I can also do it, if it is even slightly possible (I think).

But if I am of the impression that I cannot learn anything because I'm too old, and only young people can learn things - then - I'm out.

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People...take it easy please!!!when i said future i didn't mean he's going to be Kasparov...If there is another kid this young who is a better player in the site please feel free to point him to us...

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check Oh My thread: Two young talents, both born in 1992, met in the fourth round. Fabiano won. Now both are awaiting their next higher chess titles: GM and WGM.


GM at 15 is much more difficult to achieve than strong patzer at 13...yes, these 2 15 years old kids might have some chance to get famous

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Originally posted by monteirof
yes.... and 40years old nobel prize winner Einstein was dumber than 30 years einstein....

just like 30 years world champ Capablanca was dumber than 20 years old capa...

and what's the deal with mozart death? lol
Einstein received the Nobel prize at age 42...for a paper he wrote at the age of 26.

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Josh waitzkin actually became a GM!!!!! but now hes a martial artist, inbetween martial arts and chess he owns over 21 world championships.

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Originally posted by stevetodd
Well I am 49 and would love to believe that you were correct, but realistically it's just not, of course they will be exceptions as there always is in life, but children learn much faster than adults and also it's much more common at chess clubs for players in their 60's to be playing at a significantly lower level than when in their prime. It's not an eas ...[text shortened]... and endgame, but that's probably down to my inadequate teaching than her learning ability.
Well said.

I'm in my late 40s and continue to improve, but several teenagers that I know are getting better faster with far less work.

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Originally posted by Red Night
Einstein received the Nobel prize at age 42...for a paper he wrote at the age of 26.
...only because his greatest contribution (General Relativity at age 36) was at the time too controversial for the prize.

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I'm 41, and only started playing chess seriously 13 months ago. While I'm not very good, I have improved by roughly 150 ELO points without coaching, books, or data bases. Like some of the other posters, If I had any time whatsoever to devote to study, I'm sure I would be MUCH better, and in very little time. I find I learn things easier now than as a kid. As an adult I've learned "strategies" to attack problems. Learning how to learn comes with age and experience.

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Originally posted by kmac27
Josh waitzkin actually became a GM!!!!! but now hes a martial artist, inbetween martial arts and chess he owns over 21 world championships.
ChessMaster calls him a IM. I have never heard of GM Joshua Waitzkins. Some player in here stated that he tried the earn the GM title but he could not win it.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I agree with this in some extent. Children [b]are faster in learning. This is not a myth.
The myth is that this is entierly true. It isn't.

In adult age, I've noticed that I'm also able to learn heavy stuff in no time, given motivation and time.

Time is the keyword here: If I had as much time as when I was young then I can learn things a lot f ...[text shortened]... er. Now I have responsabilities that force me to prioritize. Chess down and earning money up.[/b]
I agree with you, Fabian. As adults, we tend to prioritize anything that gets our bills paid. We have hobbies, kids have potential future careers. 🙂

But you CAN get good at something at any age. I've seen people take up piano (which, IMHO, is much harder than chess) after retiring, and get quite good 3 or 4 years later.

Of course, because geniality = talent + experience, when you start late you must have lots and lots of talent to compensate for the years (or decades) of experience you'll never have.

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Originally posted by gambit3
ChessMaster calls him a IM. I have never heard of GM Joshua Waitzkins. Some player in here stated that he tried the earn the GM title but he could not win it.
Yes, he's an IM: http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=2005158