Okay, if I drew the 1800 Josh personality in Chessmaster 9000, in that game, what would I be my rating performance wise? The time controls were set at 30 moves in 30 minutes. I am running on a Pentium III at over 1 MHZ and plenty of RAM. Could we assume - if we were to consider a rough USCF esimate and deduct 200 points - that in that game I could be performing at FIDE 1500 or 1600 USCF equivalent? I really want some answers to these questions, and it would be very helpful to me because I am extremely curious to find out my rating. Newport doesn't have too good of a chess club here, so it's very difficult sometimes for me to find tournaments to play in. 🙂 Guess, I need to travel to Portland soon for the next tournament or start my own club here. 🙂
Originally posted by powershakerSome folks from Portland travel to Spokane and Seattle to play USCF events, and the travel goes the other wat, too.
Okay, if I drew the 1800 Josh personality in Chessmaster 9000, in that game, what would I be my rating performance wise? The time controls were set at 30 moves in 30 minutes. I am running on a Pentium III at over 1 MHZ and plenty of RAM. Could we assume - if we were to consider a rough USCF esimate and deduct 200 points - that in that game I could be ...[text shortened]... ) Guess, I need to travel to Portland soon for the next tournament or start my own club here. 🙂
I assume you mean >1GhZ: a P3 at 1 MhZ would have the strength of my old 80386. Computer ratings are never reliable. You also need success against a variety of opponents in order to measure skill. If you beat Josh consistently, try an opponent with a more positional approach.
Originally posted by powershakerjust about 1418. - see, if your rating here stays about the same, it just means that 1800-josh-draw-rating on your machine is that much inflated. your chess ability is the same, only metrics differ.
Okay, if I drew the 1800 Josh personality in Chessmaster 9000, in that game, what would I be my rating performance wise?
it also depends on how many losses you took trying for that draw. for example, IF you won 1 game against a 1600-player here, but lost other 3, that would give you exactly 1400-rating.
there's no free lunch.
Originally posted by Jusuhthis is false.
easy one: if you draw 1800, your strenght level is 1800. if you win it, it is 2200, and if you lose it is 1400.
It would be a very very preliminary rating...you need to play a decent number of games before the rating is indicative of true level.
It is a statistics and probability based scheme so one game does not give the full picture
I have Chessmaster 10 and the strength of it varies a lot between the different personalities and the different time controls (and my machine is a bit beefier than the one you are playing on).
But, as some others have already said, you can't conclude much based on one game. In addition to playing Josh 1800 you should also play three or four personalities above and below the one you are targetting.
You could then get a general idea of what your rating could be, but even then only if you actually give Chessmaster plenty of time to think. I would expect 30 moves in 30 minutes is going to be pretty good, but you won't want to get much lower than that on your hardware or the results will be horribly skewed.
Originally posted by JusuhMy RHP is no where near my true strength. I play very quickly here because I make each move of my 28 simultaneous games at the library. If I played like I do in games against my hand held chess computer (rated at 1700), my rating on RHP - I believe - would be much higher. At least two hundred points higher. But, I just play on here for fun basically and to talk chess, like now. 🙂 I managed to test the 1701 T.C. Chessmaster 9000 personality by playing my 1700 hand held chess computer against the 1701 T.C. T.C. won!!! This proves that whatever strength measurement Excalibur electronics used in determining their computer's rating was not accurate at all. T.C. is stronger at 1700 than Radioshack's hand held is. I crushed the Radio shack hand held after that, because I knew if T.C. could beat him and I beat T.C., I could beat it also. Now, something is amiss here, because the Chessmaster team tested Chessmaster 9000 on a Pentium II Athlon with AMD, and they said the ratings reflect true USCF strengths within a 50 point range. All my tests have shown this to be true. Also, I would like you to know that I had T.C. thinking with only 10 minutes on his clock, pausing to allow the Excalibur chess computer to think three to four minutes a move. T.C. is much stronger. So, now what would you say? I also beat T.C.
easy one: if you draw 1800, your strenght level is 1800. if you win it, it is 2200, and if you lose it is 1400.
Originally posted by powershakerI understand that it's possible that your true strength is higher than your rating here. But you must consider that the reason you're faring so well against the computers, but not against humans is because of your preference for a closed game. Computers play poorly in closed positions.
My RHP is no where near my true strength. I play very quickly here because I make each move of my 28 simultaneous games at the library. If I played like I do in games against my hand held chess computer (rated at 1700), my rating on RHP - I believe - would be much higher. At least two hundred points higher. But, I just play on here for fun basically ...[text shortened]... ee to four minutes a move. T.C. is much stronger. So, now what would you say? I also beat T.C.
Originally posted by powershakerI dont think Chessmaster ratings are anywhere close to right. I can beat up to 2100 on chessmaster, but never have I beaten anyone over 1800 on RHP.
Okay, if I drew the 1800 Josh personality in Chessmaster 9000, in that game, what would I be my rating performance wise? The time controls were set at 30 moves in 30 minutes. I am running on a Pentium III at over 1 MHZ and plenty of RAM. Could we assume - if we were to consider a rough USCF esimate and deduct 200 points - that in that game I could be ...[text shortened]... ) Guess, I need to travel to Portland soon for the next tournament or start my own club here. 🙂
I got a friend who can win Chessmaster 7000 (rated 2700) everytime he plays it. and hes only 1800-1900 in real life (256 ram, celeron XP)
Originally posted by RavelloYeah, it's true. I'm much higher than my rating on RHP. THere are a lot of people on here like that. I play better OTB, too. Strangely, it's true. I estimate around 1550 and that's being extremely reasonable. You must take into account if I'm moving nearly instantly on this sight and playing at a 1400 strength - speed chess basically... then you begin to see the logic of it all.
Yeah,sure,you're 200-300 points stronger but for some odd reason you're rated 1400 on a correspondence chess site.
Yeah,sure.
Originally posted by wormwoodActually, no I don't at all! LOL I've considered playing only 5 games at a time and truly playing my best. But, there's just not a lot of time in the library to do that. So, I try not to take RHP too seriously. It's not like a USCF match or anything. hehe
so you just like losing to players a couple of hundred points lower than you? wow, you're a real sport! 🙂