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    10 Jul '09 11:431 edit
    Originally posted by erikido
    Out of curiosity. What is your purpose of this analysis?
    Well, these figures show what the absolute best human players can achieve in terms of objective top 3 matchup rates with engines.

    Of course the flip-side of this is that the data can help determine engine users on sites like this.
    The data is remarkably consistent.

    I have also analysed Fischer-Spassky 1972 World Championships with:
    Fischer
    Top 1 Match: 385/658 (58,5% )
    Top 2 Match: 509/658 (77,4% )
    Top 3 Match: 563/658 (85,6% )
    Spassky
    Top 1 Match: 368/657 (56,0% )
    Top 2 Match: 461/657 (70,2% )
    Top 3 Match: 525/657 (79,9% )
    and Capablanca-Alekhine 1927 World Championships:
    Alekhine
    Top 1 Match: 467/852 (54,8% )
    Top 2 Match: 622/852 (73,0% )
    Top 3 Match: 685/852 (80,4% )
    Capablanca
    Top 1 Match: 470/853 (55,1% )
    Top 2 Match: 632/853 (74,1% )
    Top 3 Match: 703/853 (82,4% )
    and now pre-computer era long time control 1972-'75 World CC Championships:
    1st Place Result:
    Estrin (9 games)
    Top 1 Match: 153/256 (59,8% )
    Top 2 Match: 191/256 (74,6% )
    Top 3 Match: 209/256 (81,6% )
    2nd Place Result:
    Boey (13 games)
    Top 1 Match: 268/449 (59,7% )
    Top 2 Match: 342/449 (76,2% )
    Top 3 Match: 376/449 (83,7% )
    3rd Place Result:
    Zagorovsky V (10 games)
    Top 1 Match: 153/252 (60,7% )
    Top 2 Match: 190/252 (75,4% )
    Top 3 Match: 208/252 (82,5% )
  2. Joined
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    10 Jul '09 11:50
    I see, that is interesting. Although, I would expect a cc player to have a much higher match rate because of the database and book use.
  3. Joined
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    10 Jul '09 11:57
    Originally posted by erikido
    I see, that is interesting. Although, I would expect a cc player to have a much higher match rate because of the database and book use.
    All the moves analysed are non-database moves.
  4. Joined
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    10 Jul '09 12:00
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    All the moves analysed are non-database moves.
    I see, I wasn't paying close enough attention to your first posts
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    10 Jul '09 22:38
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Well, these figures show what the absolute best human players can achieve in terms of objective top 3 matchup rates with engines.

    Of course the flip-side of this is that the data can help determine engine users on sites like this.
    But what can be done when the owners of RHP refuse to ban someone even though their match-up with Fritz is consistently higher than the best over-the-board and correspondence players of all time?
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