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  1. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    28 Nov '12 11:32
    And here is Chucker approaching 2500.

    Has there been anyone here go over 2500 not proven to have been using engines?

    I know that one dude that went to what, 3000 by bogus play but real players over 2500, ever?
  2. 28 Nov '12 11:56
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And here is Chucker approaching 2500.

    Has there been anyone here go over 2500 not proven to have been using engines?

    I know that one dude that went to what, 3000 by bogus play but real players over 2500, ever?
    Define "real player".
  3. 28 Nov '12 12:21 / 2 edits
    Players like Mihai52, kaoslos, David Tebb, Zawinul, Kingaroo
    anyone whose loss or draw is @ least a minimum of 10% of their total games.
    should be respected. meaning out of say 1000 games @ least 100 games is lose or draw.


    but Players with less than the above mentioned is of course questionable.
    I have an "Over-the-board" Rating way higher than most Top 10. for real.
    But my highest reach was only below 2000 here. Presently I have 1600 plus.
    Now go figure.!! They must have that expensive chips. 🙄

    Hey if you don't see my name here no more, is simply they banned me for exposing them.
    not my lose if it happen. I will take my $dollar somewhere else. 🙂
  4. 28 Nov '12 13:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by jcmessy
    [b]Players like Mihai52,
    anyone whose loss or draw is @ least a minimum of 10% of their total games.
    should be respected. meaning out of say 1000 games @ least 100 games is lose or draw.
    [/b]
    Not necessarily ... Mihai52's loss percentage only recently went down. There was a time when he was not a super star.

    In fact, I played him 12 times and never lost one! I doubt I could do that against anyone else with "his" rating.

    (3 Wins 9 Draws - With 2 Drawn On Move 1)
  5. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Nov '12 13:00
    Originally posted by jcmessy

    I have an "Over-the-board" Rating way higher than most Top 10. for real.
    But my highest reach was only below 2000 here. Presently I have 1600 plus.
    Now go figure.!! They must have that expensive chips. 🙄

    Hey if you don't see my name here no more, is simply they banned me for exposing them.
    not my lose if it happen. I will take my $dollar somewhere else. 🙂[/b]
    As I write this, the 10th player on our list has a 2362 rating.

    Do I understand you correctly, that your OTB rating is way above 2362, but you are only 1600+ here?

    I have some thoughts about this, but I want to make sure that I understand you correctly before I say anything, as I might be misunderstanding you.
  6. 28 Nov '12 13:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by jcmessy
    [b]Players like Mihai52, kaoslos, David Tebb, Zawinul, Kingaroo
    anyone whose loss or draw is @ least a minimum of 10% of their total games.
    should be respected. meaning out of say 1000 games @ least 100 games is lose or draw.


    but Players with less than the above mentioned is of course questionable.
    I have an "Over-the-board" Ratin posing them.
    not my lose if it happen. I will take my $dollar somewhere else. 🙂[/b]
    Loss rate may increase due to intentionally losing and/or timeouts (like you did).
  7. Subscriber Proper Knob
    Cornovii
    28 Nov '12 13:31
    Originally posted by Pacifique
    Loss rate may increase due to intentionally losing and/or timeouts (like you did).
    Like cohonas (a former no 1) who has lost 194 games, 95% of those were due to timeouts.
  8. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    28 Nov '12 17:49
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Like cohonas (a former no 1) who has lost 194 games, 95% of those were due to timeouts.
    Why couldn't he have timed out when I was playing him?
  9. 29 Nov '12 00:41
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    Not necessarily ... Mihai52's loss percentage only recently went down. There was a time when he was not a super star.
    A player called Mihai52 is banned on chess.com...
    Here is a game of his from there:
    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=51778547
  10. 29 Nov '12 03:39
    Thanks for showing us the game. But black's handling the defense was weak!
    I have played the guy. Of course I don't touch my pieces, as my training here.
    I do that in purpose to train my "Photographic Memory", @ least to compensate my dues.
    Otherwise, If I touch my pieces is no longer a training for me.

    Similar Style of Mihai52. The game you showed us.
    but you cannot really say that here, for it could be a different person here.
  11. 29 Nov '12 03:52 / 1 edit
    If you guys will look @ the record of the Champions in the History of Chess,
    Only Alekhine has the highest percentage of winning. 59.2% - Chance to lose is 13.6%
    - Chance to draw is 10%.


    But this guy "KINGSHILL" has far better record than all the WORLD CHAMPIONS.
    Yet his "Over-the-board" Rating is only a candidate master, if he still has really the strength.
    Now go figure. No World Champions Past or Present can match his record.
  12. 29 Nov '12 03:55
    Talk about real Clown. 🙄
  13. 29 Nov '12 04:04
    Now they can banned me for Exposing "real Free Loaders" here.
    If they want us to respect them, then stop Cheating others who play by the rules.
    and help this site for paying your dues.
    That is if you really care to support this site like us.. 🙂
    Then support this site by playing "Clean Chess", and pay your dues. not "Free Loaders"..
    Give a break... 😴
  14. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    29 Nov '12 04:11
    Originally posted by jcmessy
    [b]Players like Mihai52, kaoslos, David Tebb, Zawinul, Kingaroo
    anyone whose loss or draw is @ least a minimum of 10% of their total games.
    should be respected. meaning out of say 1000 games @ least 100 games is lose or draw.


    but Players with less than the above mentioned is of course questionable.
    I have an "Over-the-board" Ratin ...[text shortened]... posing them.
    not my lose if it happen. I will take my $dollar somewhere else. 🙂[/b]
    I played kingshill #8 several times and had a win, draws, a loss, but I made a blunder so I would add him to your list. I lost to Caesare #10 and sacca #11 without any obvious blunders, so I can't say. Someone else will have to be the judge.
  15. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    29 Nov '12 04:18 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by jcmessy
    [b]If you guys will look @ the record of the Champions in the History of Chess,
    Only Alekhine has the highest percentage of winning. 59.2% - Chance to lose is 13.6%
    - Chance to draw is 10%.


    But this guy "KINGSHILL" has far better record than all the WORLD CHAMPIONS.
    Yet his "Over-the-board" Rating is only a candidate ...[text shortened]... .
    Now go figure. No World Champions Past or Present can match his record.[/b]
    A candidate master in OTB play should be high on the list on RHP in my opinion. That is, if he actually takes advantage of RHP rules.

    P.S. I beat kingshill and had at least one draw by using psychology. You can't use psychology on any computer engine that I am aware of.