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A black opening that limits lame knight outposts

A black opening that limits lame knight outposts

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Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.

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The extremly boring french defence has what you need.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
It kills you no matter how well you defend because it's easier to blunder?
To defend well you have to not blunder by definition.
Not the openings fault you blunder. Good chance it's not the opening's fault the opponent has an outposted knight.
Try for once taking responsibility for your losses instead of blaming the opening or a blunder.
Blunders are your fault. Openings have a pedigree otherwise they wouldn't be openings. It is possible to win with any opening you choose.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
It kills you no matter how well you defend because it's easier to blunder?
To defend well you have to not blunder by definition.
Not the openings fault you blunder. Good chance it's not the opening's fault the opponent has an outposted knight.
Try for once taking responsibility for your losses instead of blaming the opening or a blunder.
Blunders a ...[text shortened]... edigree otherwise they wouldn't be openings. It is possible to win with any opening you choose.
Well, fine, back to the original question, name an opening that limits annoying knight outposts? Sorry Xanthos, but it doesn't take much genius to put a knight on e5 or d5 when pawns are around the center, it's annoying, and I want it stoped.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
Gee if you're sooooooooo worried about Knights on e5 and/or d5, I've got a perfect defense for ya: 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d6!!! They'll never get there then!

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this ...[text shortened]... hen he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
(yawns) Has anyone ever told you your sh*t at chess and from your constant moaning about basic chess principles its hardly surprising. A well posted knight is worth more than a rook. Quit bitching about pople who use pieces effectively and learn to do it yourself. Since players who are doing it are clearly better chess players than yourself and are out playing you. Is the concept of putting pieces on their most active and effective square really that hard to grasp? Its something far from skillless.

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Lion defense (black...)

e4 ..d6
d4 ..Nf3
Nc3 ..Nd7

or ...

d4 ..d6
e4 etc... 😉

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Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow
(yawns) Has anyone ever told you your sh*t at chess and from your constant moaning about basic chess principles its hardly surprising. A well posted knight is worth more than a rook. Quit bitching about pople who use pieces effectively and learn to do it yourself. Since players who are doing it are clearly better chess players than yourself and ...[text shortened]... r most active and effective square really that hard to grasp? Its something far from skillless.
You might as well forget pep talks or speaking to his sensible side...He is not going to be happy until he has the magic pill that makes him good enough to beat Kasparov. Could you imagine the best players in the world b*tching so much about knight outposts? No, they are too busy finding ways to do similar things to their opponants.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
How about Bb5 followed by Bxc6 and Bg5 followed by Bxf6 on your opponants knights. Of course, that would force you to learn to use two knights instead of a bishops...So what is the point, really? Having a plan of attack, actually.

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
actually, its usually a blunder if you let your opponent have a knight outpost, why dont you post a game where knight outposts killed and work from there.

p.s. if there's a big hole in your half of the chessboard and an opposing pawn supporting that square, chances are your opponent will put a knight there... so dont leave open squares in your half of the chess board!

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Originally posted by mateulose
Many players beat me by quite skillessly knight outposting. It's a simple thing to do that is very hard to stop in most openings and it is extremely tacticly annoying. Are there any good black openings that do not allow white to do this in anyway shape or form? This seems to kill me, no matter how good I defend, when he has a knight outpost, it's just easier for you to blunder.
Openings don't allow outposts. Moves do.

If you think reaching a knight outpost is "skillless" then why don't you do it to your opponents? Make some of those "lame" moves and become world champion.

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Is there a defense out there that prevents blunders? I haven't seen that one in the books yet,, I just assume that no matter what defense I use.. if I make a stupid blunder its irrelevent... I would be done.