As a matter of fact I play the Pirc sometimes too! The Austrian attack is pretty tough sometimes.....such as 1.e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 c5 6. e5! or something to that effect.........sometimes you can sac the pawn with e6....I've got smashed by this a couple times until I looked it up! Hehehe.....
That's awesome! We seem to enjoy the same openings. The Pirc is dangerous for Black in the beginning but if you get through the dangerous lines and get into the middlegame I enjoy the counter attacking style. It can be very positional so I'm still not real great with it but I want to make it 'My' defense.
The Austrian is VERRRRY tricky in the beginning!! I'm studying Lev Albert's 'Pirc Alert' to figure out some good reponses. Have you checked out this book?
I like the discussion on openings. I have recently been trying to study at least an hour or 2 a week to opening play. I know very little about the pirc but am interested. (to learn how to play against it, not use it) I just started reading about it. My only concern about using the austrian attack is that the person using the pirc probably would know more about it that me, so I probably will fall into line w/ e4,d4,nf3,nc3.
Eventually, I'd like to learn about it in more detail. Since I play e4 openings, I want to be well equipped to deal w/ blacks possible responses. So I read pirc alert eventually.
Hi, to add my piece. I enjoy playing white against Pirc a lot.
To give you something to think about i believe the following line is even more dangerous then 1.e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 c5 6. e5! as pointed before. Check out!
1.e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 c5 6. Bb5+ Bd7 (the only good answer) 7. e5!
that's really hard for Black to equal ..
7. ..Ng4 (again almost the only option) 8. e6! (the point of the advance) 8. ..Bxb5 (nothing else posible, if fxe6 then 9. Ng5 wins)
9. exf7+ Kf8 (try to take the pawn now and die 😀) 10. Nxb5 etc etc
it goes on and on and Black hardly catches up ..
Who wants to try that as Black challange me (for you - unrated, if you wish 🙂) and we can go through it with comments.
Cheers,
Jira
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Originally posted by JiraJira, I'm afraid your knowledge of the Pirc is a little out of date 😕
Hi, to add my piece. I enjoy playing white against Pirc a lot.
To give you something to think about i believe the following line is even more dangerous then 1.e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 c5 6. e5! as pointed before. Check out!
1.e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 c5 6. Bb5+ Bd7 (the only good answer) 7. e5!
that's really hard f ...[text shortened]... me (for you - unrated, if you wish 🙂) and we can go through it with comments.
Cheers,
Jira
In the line you give, 8..fxe6 is not only playable, it's become the main line! Alburt & Chernin (who is the world's leading authority on the Pirc) recommend it in their recent book 'Pirc Alert' (published 2001). They describe the alternative 8..Bxb5 as a 'risky move' 😛
After 8..Bxb5 9.exf7+, black should not play 9..Kf8? as you suggest. Instead 9..Kd7 is the correct move, as has been known for decades.
But you are right when you say this is a very dangerous line for black 😲
Dave
4 the past couple of weeks I have been playing the pirc almost exclusively....is that wise 2 learn a opening that way?..I've also been trying it out against d6 as well?.....I just got "the pirc defense" and that's been helping...I plan on getting "pirc alert" 2....I'd love 2 play it against someone who knows it real well though(tutorial)...
Originally posted by gabinchanceAbsolutely! If you play it constantly you will learn it even better!!🙂 If you want to make it 'your' defense that's the only way to do it.
4 the past couple of weeks I have been playing the pirc almost exclusively....is that wise 2 learn a opening that way
Originally posted by David TebbHi David,
Jira, I'm afraid your knowledge of the Pirc is a little out of date 😕
In the line you give, 8..fxe6 is not only playable, it's become the main line! Alburt & Chernin (who is the world's leading authority on the Pirc) recommend it in their recent book 'Pirc Alert' (published 2001). They describe the alternative 8..Bxb5 as a 'risky move' 😛
Af ...[text shortened]... or decades.
But you are right when you say this is a very dangerous line for black 😲
Dave
you are right about 9. ..Kd7 that is the right move. I actually knew that but mixed it up, in my enthusiasm, with the bad move.
I don't know the new book you mention but I have one (though older from 2 Czech GMs - Hort and Pribyl) which denies 8..fxe6 as weak.
I have to check it out 😉
Jira