A Jonny Hector game

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29 May 13

cabandmush

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A game of Jonny Hector's that I thought I would share. There are no comments from me because this is way over my head! I have no idea what is going on, but it is amazing.

Jonny Hector vs Per Vernersson, Swedish Championship 2001.

greenpawn34

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29 May 13

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I'll give a bash at noting it up.
Hector, Sax and Vanganian games are always worth playing over.

J. Hector - P. Vernersson Sweden 2001

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 {It very rarely matters if you play this or 3.Nc3 Black usually plays....} 3... dxe4 {....this to either move.} 4. Nxe4 Nd7 {4...Bf5 is more popular but the text has it's band of faithful followers as well.} 5. Ng5 {I have 18 games with Hector as White here. Winning 11.3 drawn and 4 losses. The resulting double edged  positions suit his style.} 5... Ngf6 6. Bc4 {Amazingly this position has appeared on RHP over 100 times and nobody has fallen for Bxf7 mate.} 6... e6 7. Qe2 {With Nxf7 and Qxe6+ threats. in game 8632718 on here Black here played 7....Be7 and it was all over after 8.Nxf7.} 7... Nb6 8. Bd3 {There is now a pawn up for grabs on d4. An important central pawn. Most players have never taken it deeming 8...Qxd5 9.Nf3 is too difficult to hold OTB and in practice this has proven true with White winning a vast majority of the games.} 8... h6 9. N5f3 {So after the great retreat by White what has he achieved? Black's c8 Bishop looking glum and g6 has been weakened. Black too is happy he has beaten back the first wave and the g1 Knight is denied it's favourite square. Now 1,000's of game have continued here with 9....c5.} 9... Nbd7 {But this cannot be the best move. Perhaps Black was worried about Ne5 and Ng1-f3 or intended to capture after c5 with Nxc5. Maybe he did not like having a Knight on b6. Tarrasch spilt gallons of ink slagging off Knights on b6. He hated them} 10. Bd2 {White develops. What tempo he lost with the piece retreats on moves 8 and 9 he has just been given them back.} 10... c5 11. O-O-O a6 {That too looks like a luxury move. White now sends in the second wave.} 12. Nh4 {Freeing f3 for the g1 Knight and sniffing at the f5 and g6 squares. Sometimes Knights on the rim are not so dim.} 12... Qc7 13. Ngf3 cxd4 {Good move if your thinking runs "I take, he takes back..." and indeed if White played 14.Nxd4 here then Black is putting up a good show with 14....Nc5. However.....} 14. Ng6 {If you thinking runs "He takes....I sac a Knight." then you are bound to create OTB problems for your opponent. Black cannot take this Knight (see the next game).} 14... Rg8 15. Nxd4 {If, as you will see, Black cannot take the Knight last move, with the other Knight on d4 it is even stronger for White.} 15... Nc5 16. Bf4 {Black could have thrown in Nxd3+ here but that swaps his only really active piece and brings the Queen to d3 tying the Black Queen down to cover d8.} 16... Qb6 17. Nxf8 {White can be happy with the position even though this Knight has gone, it is still very tricky for Black. Personally I would have played Rhe1 here. Black still cannot take the Knight after 17.Rh1 even after Nxd3+. Not saying Rhe1 is better but I would have left the Knight hanging for as long as possible. (and then regretted it.)} 17... Kxf8 {17..Rxf8 meets 18.Nf5 and Nd6+} 18. Bc4 {This is the move that White saw when he traded the Knight (OK it's better Rhe1) a triple hit on e6 and the d1 Rook is peeking at the squares d5, d6 and d8 after the d4 Knight moves.} 18... Bd7 {Cannot see anything else that stops coming attack. Black has to get this piece and the a8 Rook into the game.} 19. Nf5 {One Knight unhangs itself to a pawn, another takes it's place. It's obvious this one cannot be taken. 19...exf5 20.Bd6+} 19... Bb5 20. Qe3 {That's a good move. He is threatening 21.Bd6+ and Bxc5. Wonder if I'd had hit on this a few moves back. Dislike pinning a piece if the pinned piece has a check. (I'm too dogmatic sometimes and dismiss good moves for all the wrong reasons.)} 20... Ne8 {To stop 21.Bd6+. If 20...Bxc4 21.Bd6+ 22.Bxc5 and 23 Nd6+ hammers Black. It's 1-0.} 21. Rd6 {That gives a hint how strong Bd6+ is. White is saccing the exchange to get it in.} 21... Bc6 22. Bxe6 {At last the sac on e6 that White went for right in the opening now appears. It has to be taken.} 22... fxe6 23. Rxe6 {Black could have given the piece back with 23....Nb3+ here and gone into a hopeless ending two pawns down. Instead he tries to get the Queens off and keep the piece.} 23... Na4 24. Rf6+ {It's over. 1-0. It would end thus.} 24... gxf6 25. Qe7

Now we look at the original Knight sacrifice.

And finally Game No 8632718 which was mentioned in the notes to the first game.

WhiteHorses - kapatidnapogi RHP 2012

Paul Leggett

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29 May 13

Originally posted by greenpawn34
[b]I'll give a bash at noting it up.
Hector, Sax and Vanganian games are always worth playing over.

Thumbs up and worth repeating! As soon as I saw Hector's name in the title, I opened this thread immediately.

He plays with energy and has his own unique style. A book of his best games would be a great read.

moonbus

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30 May 13

Thanks for the notes. BTW, the pgn leading this thread gives the result as 0-1; when I saw the result I was puzzled (mate in two--even I can see that far ahead). Maybe the pgn should be corrected.

Is anyone at the forum familiar with games of Julius/Gyula Breyer? He had a similar style, it seems to me--very unusual ideas.

Paul Leggett

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30 May 13

Originally posted by moonbus
Thanks for the notes. BTW, the pgn leading this thread gives the result as 0-1; when I saw the result I was puzzled (mate in two--even I can see that far ahead). Maybe the pgn should be corrected.

Is anyone at the forum familiar with games of Julius/Gyula Breyer? He had a similar style, it seems to me--very unusual ideas.

Breyer features prominently in Reti's Modern Ideas in Chess. He may well have been the first truly hypermodern player.

caissad4

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31 May 13

Originally posted by Paul Leggett
Breyer features prominently in Reti's Modern Ideas in Chess. He may well have been the first truly hypermodern player.

"After 1.P-K4 whites game is in its last throes" Julius Breyer

greenpawn34

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31 May 13

"After 1.P-K4 whites game is in its last throes"

After quoting this in Modern Chess Ideas Reti added:

Credo quia absurdum

Which translates to "I believe because it is absurd."

Exuma

Anansi

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31 May 13

Thanks for the lead on Breyer. Somehow I have not seen and played through these games. Really really difficult and interesting.

The first one I looked at on chessgames - this comes up -

So from this position, why is it that black should not play NxN, and after pxN, QxN?

Thus -

I see that if the bishop on d2 was not there, then Qd7 is mate. I see that the bishop has a free move because of that threat. The problem is that black has Qd5, and if the white Q goes somewhere else the R on d1 is hanging. What am I missing? In the actual game black played 0-0-0 instead of taking the e-pawn

greenpawn34

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Hi Exuma

You have to weigh these things up OTB very carefully.
An attacking player would offer that pawn without much thought.
They have a history of offering such pawns (who was White?...Infact who were the players?)
he knows the coming defence is difficult for Black.
He will get play for that pawn.

Black may have just rejected it because he saw the difficulties and
after 0-0-0 theatened to take it.
(The threat very often being stronger than the execution.)

He may not have picked his through the maze and decided it was not worth a pawn.

(Also, I don't know, it may be a theorectical pawn sac by White.)

However Lasker (and we will meet him again in a minute) writes
any centre pawn is always worth a bit of trouble.

All these maxims, quotes and rules of thumb.
Each one appears to have a counter rule of thumb.
Is it any wonder we are running around like headless chickens.

Winter writes that he once thought for ages (35 minutes if I recall)
before saccing a piece v Lasker. Lasker ignored it and replied within a
minute.

After the game Winter asked why did you not take the piece. Lasker replied.

"If a good player offers a piece sacrifice after 35 minutes thought it must
be good. You can keep the piece I'll keep the 35 minutes."

Or words to that effect, I cannot remember it word for word. Lasker won.

So let us have a quick look at what perhaps Black saw...
(though I think they just said "No Thank You." without much thought.)

This is the other line the Black player would have to look at.

sonhouse

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
I'll give a bash at noting it up.
Hector, Sax and Vanganian games are always worth playing over.

[b]J. Hector - P. Vernersson Sweden 2001

[pgn]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 {It very rarely matters if you play this or 3.Nc3 Black usually plays....} 3... dxe4 {....this to either move.} 4. Nxe4 Nd7 {4...Bf5 is more popular but the text has it's band e7 8. Ng5xf7 Ke8xf7 9. Qe2xe6 Kf7g6 10. Bc4d3[/pgn][/b]

In that opening, what is wrong with stopping that whole affair with 3 ed, cd and then 4 c4 making it more like a queen's gambit? That works the same against the french also. Is there some underlying fault with that system?

Exuma

Anansi

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi Exuma

You have to weigh these things up OTB very carefully.
An attacking player would offer that pawn without much thought.
They have a history of offering such pawns (who was White?...Infact who were the players?)
he knows the coming defence is difficult for Black.
He will get play for that pawn.

Ah my apologies - the game was Gyula Breyer v Ziolo 1911. Thanks for the notes - that Bg5 is crafty
Here is the full game -

EVENT	Open invite
SITE	http://www.redhotpawn.com
DATE	2011.08.14
ROUND	?
WHITE	WhiteHorses
BLACK	kapatidnapogi
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	1628
BLACKELO	1513

EVENT	Keulen A
SITE	Keulen A
DATE	1911.??.??
ROUND	15
WHITE	Gyula Breyer
BLACK	Ziolo
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	?
BLACKELO	?
ECO	B15
EVENTDATE	?