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    28 Feb '15 16:112 edits
    White to move:


    A puzzle from chesstempo.com. There's an interesting tactical pattern in it. After it's solved (and it's not that difficult), have you seen the pattern before?
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    28 Feb '15 18:32
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    White to move:
    [fen]6k1/7p/8/5N2/2rb4/5KP1/7P/4R3 w - - 1 1[/fen]

    A puzzle from chesstempo.com. There's an interesting tactical pattern in it. After it's solved (and it's not that difficult), have you seen the pattern before?
    You mean a knight fork? Or are you talking about how a piece is being protected by the forking knight? If i was black and that happened to me I'd say, "Fork that Forkin knight!"
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    28 Feb '15 21:211 edit
    Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
    You mean a knight fork? Or are you talking about how a piece is being protected by the forking knight? If i was black and that happened to me I'd say, "Fork that Forkin knight!"
    Not that it's protected by the knight, but that the king has to move away from the rook because the rook protects the adjacent squares! And the knight can peacefully take the black rook.
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    28 Feb '15 22:074 edits
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    Not that it's protected by the knight, but that the king has to move away from the rook because the rook protects the adjacent squares! And the knight can peacefully take the black rook.
    Oh I've seen that pattern in "My System" in chapter three.



    White to move draws with 1.Rd7! With the idea that the knight moves between f6 and h7 perpetual check. It only works because of the pattern you mention.
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    28 Feb '15 22:16
    Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
    Oh I've seen that pattern in "My System" in chapter three.

    [fen]5k2/1R6/5N2/8/8/8/2ppp2K/8[/fen]

    White to move draws with 1.Rd7! With the idea that the knight moves between f6 and h7 perpetual check. It only works because of the pattern you mention.
    eh ?
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    28 Feb '15 22:25
    Originally posted by The Gravedigger
    eh ?
    Eh What?

    If you are thinking the black king can escape to h8 think again because Rh7 is checkmate.
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    01 Mar '15 01:26
    Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
    Eh What?

    If you are thinking the black king can escape to h8 think again because Rh7 is checkmate.
    Yes, but in the diagram in the OP the knight is on f5 and not f6 and white is a pawn up and hoping for more than a draw. Got to admit I can't see anything other than 1. Re8+ Kf7 2. Nd6+ Kxe8 3. Nxc4 which gets the rooks off but looks drawish - I doubt that that's the solution. If you have a line in mind put it in [ hidden ] tags [ /hidden ] so it comes out like Reveal Hidden Content
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    01 Mar '15 01:331 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Y Got to admit I can't see anything other than 1. Re8+ Kf7 2. Nd6+ Kxe8 3. Nxc4
    Kxe8 is illegal. That's the point of the thread.
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    01 Mar '15 01:461 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Yes, but in the diagram in the OP the knight is on f5 and not f6 and white is a pawn up and hoping for more than a draw. Got to admit I can't see anything other than 1. Re8+ Kf7 2. Nd6+ Kxe8 3. Nxc4 which gets the rooks off but looks drawish - I doubt that that's the solution. If you have a line in mind put it in [ hidden ] tags [ /hidden ] so it comes out like [hidden]this[/hidden].
    My apologoies, there are two different positions being discussed.

    To answer your query, a knight on d6 covers the e8 square and protects the rook and so your line for the position in the OP is correct minus ...Kxe8.
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    01 Mar '15 02:38
    Originally posted by iChopWoodForFree
    Oh I've seen that pattern in "My System" in chapter three.

    [fen]5k2/1R6/5N2/8/8/8/2ppp2K/8[/fen]

    White to move draws with 1.Rd7! With the idea that the knight moves between f6 and h7 perpetual check. It only works because of the pattern you mention.
    Wow. 🙂 And I agree it's the same pattern. I find it fascinating for some reason, I'm not really sure why.
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    Hi Wandering King,

    If you like that pattern then you will simply drool over this game.

    denkant - sossinator RHP 2012

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    01 Mar '15 03:47
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    Wow. 🙂 And I agree it's the same pattern. I find it fascinating for some reason, I'm not really sure why.
    You should check out that book. It has a lot of fascinating ideas in it.
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    02 Mar '15 02:15
    Originally posted by HikaruShindo
    Kxe8 is illegal. That's the point of the thread.
    Oops, should have hidden the line. I'm going through a bit of a tactically inept phase at the moment. Too much focus on just the one square the knight was hitting without seeing what else it was doing. Anyone know a cure?
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