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My new favorite all time game... wow.
edit-- hehe I spelt beautiful wrong.
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Originally posted by ih8sensNice. I played this one recently, it's a bit unsound and based on a trap in another line in the Pirc.
😀 Game 3533228 😀
My new favorite all time game... wow.
edit-- hehe I spelt beautiful wrong.
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Edit: it's not really trap since it can be defended.
Originally posted by ih8sensThe Traxler is one opening where you cannot hope to find the best moves over the board by yourself. I know it pretty well, though I play 5.Bxf7+ as White rather than 5.Nxf7. I think the critical blunder for White was 8.Qf3 - 8.g3 is essential.
😀 Game 3533228 😀
My new favorite all time game... wow.
edit-- hehe I spelt beautiful wrong.
Originally posted by Fat LadyRight now I'm 10 wins 1 loss 0 draws with this opening. I haven't had too many chances to play it, I've been studying it for about 6 months now though. It's one of those openings that if your opponent hasn't looked into it (even if they use a database) they're likely to get mauled. Awesome opening, I totally advocate it (though that might not mean much). 🙂
The Traxler is one opening where you cannot hope to find the best moves over the board by yourself. I know it pretty well, though I play 5.Bxf7+ as White rather than 5.Nxf7. I think the critical blunder for White was 8.Qf3 - 8.g3 is essential.
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Originally posted by Fat LadyYes I agree --- if you dont know the moves, working it out is a total nightmare!
The Traxler is one opening where you cannot hope to find the best moves over the board by yourself. I know it pretty well, though I play 5.Bxf7+ as White rather than 5.Nxf7. I think the critical blunder for White was 8.Qf3 - 8.g3 is essential.
The most recent game I had with it I (as white) played Kf1 (not KxB) --- Looking at that position and i'm struggling to see how black has anything to show for the sacrifice.
...Kf1 Qe7 Nxh8 Bb7? Nc3 ....now whats blacks plan?
Originally posted by ih8sensSweet!
😀 Game 3533228 😀
My new favorite all time game... wow.
edit-- hehe I spelt beautiful wrong.
I'm just looking a this for the first time but it looks to me that you take a bit of a risk with bc5 because if white refuses to capture your bishop he still gets to take your rook?
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Yeah, you give up the rook for an all-out counter attack.
Often you don't even make any attempt to re-capture the knight as well 😀
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7...Bb6 after Kf1 is the key move here, if white wisely decides not to capture with 7.Kxf2
Originally posted by ih8sensYou spelled "spelled" wrong also. 😛
😀 Game 3533228 😀
My new favorite all time game... wow.
edit-- hehe I spelt beautiful wrong.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchAre you sure 7..Bb6 is the best move, I always played 7..d5 against Kf1 and I thought it was the best move, however I didn't really spend much time studying the traxler.
Yeah, you give up the rook for an all-out counter attack.
Often you don't even make any attempt to re-capture the knight as well 😀
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7...Bb6 after Kf1 is the key move here, if white wisely decides not to capture with 7.Kxf2
Originally posted by omulcusobolani7...Bb6 gets best results in the Traxler as it secures the center with e5 & Nc6 & also allows Qc5 or Qf7 attacking f2.
Are you sure 7..Bb6 is the best move, I always played 7..d5 against Kf1 and I thought it was the best move, however I didn't really spend much time studying the traxler.
What do you suggest after
7...d5, 8.exd5 to maintain all the threats?
8...Nd4, when I started playing the traxler I just checked my database. I never really thought of deviating from the most played lines if they had a good score for black (39%white wins in the 7..d5 line out of 100games), I just noticed that Bb6 scores 0 for white however I only have 4 games with that played, if Bb6 is the best move why is it so rarely played?
Originally posted by omulcusobolaniDon't get me wrong - you've still got great chances after 8...Nd4 & white has to tread very carefully, but he can almost force simplification (& therefore finish a whole piece up) after, for instance the likely:
8...Nd4, when I started playing the traxler I just checked my database. I never really thought of deviating from the most played lines if they had a good score for black (39%white wins in the 7..d5 line out of 100games), I just noticed that Bb6 scores 0 for white however I only have 4 games with that played, if Bb6 is the best move why is it so rarely played?
9.c3...Bg4
10.Qa4+...Bd7
11.Qa3...Nc2
12.Qxe7+...Kxe7
13.Kxf2...Nxa1
14.Re1...Rxa8
15.d4
And there's nothing black can do to prevent the eventual loss of Na1
black to move
But I really think 7...Bb6 is stronger for the reasons I stated above.
Relying on db %'s is a very dodgy business, as an otherwise winning line can contain several weak moves & lose & vice versa.
On chessbase 7.Kf1...Bb6 scores 11 wins & 4 losses for black 73% 😀