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Here's one that I played...possibly the only one on this site. I didn't understand the opening but I seemed to do pretty well until Nyxie caught me with a tactical maneuver deep in the middlegame.

Game 793009

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Here's one that I played...possibly the only one on this site. I didn't understand the opening but I seemed to do pretty well until Nyxie caught me with a tactical maneuver deep in the middlegame.

Game 793009
I remember that game, you played so well in the start I was beginning to think I had made a mistake in playing you. Despit what you think you kept solid till the very end. I had so many variations going in my mind at the end it was dizzying.

For another interesting alekhine's check out my game against Vasana and look at move 15w. I thought I did well in the middle game again, but with her I was totally lost in the endgame, and became very sloppy.

I often refer to these games when I play an alekhine's.

Game 940398

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Originally posted by arrakis
Nobody can comment on a game in progress, so the point of displaying it is meaningless.
It was not put out there for comment. It was just for svin's benifiet for studying.

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How would you refute

1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Ne4?

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Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
How would you refute

1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Ne4?

To refute? Qe2. to play as normal d4, to move the knight, d3. I'd play d4 most likely and mantain center.

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Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
How would you refute

1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Ne4?

if you're looking for an odd-looking but playable line, try 1) e4 Nf6; 2) e5 Ng8 ?!

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
if you're looking for an odd-looking but playable line, try 1) e4 Nf6; 2) e5 Ng8 ?!

That looks quite silly actually.

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Originally posted by Dfthd
That looks quite silly actually.
yes, but it does keep with the spirit of this opening, as black redeploys his N while luring white forward. actually this is quite playable.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
yes, but it does keep with the spirit of this opening, as black redeploys his N while luring white forward. actually this is quite playable.
Yes, has been played a few weeks ago in Ireland. Not by GM's, but still ...

[Event "ch-EU"]
[Site "Cork IRL"]
[Date "2005.??.??"]
[White "Fox,An"]
[Black "Rossi,C"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2123"]
[BlackElo "2367"]
[ECO "B02"]
[Round "6"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Ng8 3. d4 d5 4. Bd3 c5 5. c3 Nc6 6. Ne2 Bg4 7. f3 Bd7 8. O-O Qb6 9. Kh1 e6 10. dxc5 Bxc5 11. b4 Be7 12. Bf4 Qc7 13. Re1 Nxe5 14. Na3 Nxd3 15. Qxd3 Qb6 16. Nd4 Nf6 17. Nab5 Rc8 18. Rad1 a6 19. Na3 O-O 20. Nac2 Rfe8 21. Be5 Ba4 22. Rd2 Nd7 23. Bg3 Bd6 24. Bxd6 Qxd6 25. Rde2 Qc7 26. Re3 Nf6 27. Qd2 e5 28. Ne2 d4 29. Ncxd4 exd4 30. Nxd4 Rxe3 31. Rxe3 Ne4 0-1

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Yes, has been played a few weeks ago in Ireland. Not by GM's, but still ...

[Event "ch-EU"]
[Site "Cork IRL"]
[Date "2005.??.??"]
[White "Fox,An"]
[Black "Rossi,C"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2123"]
[BlackElo "2367"]
[ECO "B02"]
[Round "6"]

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Ng8 3. d4 d5 4. Bd3 c5 5. c3 Nc6 6. Ne2 Bg4 7. f3 Bd7 8. O-O Qb6 ...[text shortened]... 6 25. Rde2 Qc7 26. Re3 Nf6 27. Qd2 e5 28. Ne2 d4 29. Ncxd4 exd4 30. Nxd4 Rxe3 31. Rxe3 Ne4 0-1
i remember a master-level player showing me how he played the position, quite radically, with h5, Nh6 and flank pawn moves in the spirit of the "modern defense" opening.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
if you're looking for an odd-looking but playable line, try 1) e4 Nf6; 2) e5 Ng8 ?!

there is no real refutation it is very playable move, of course there are plenty of options for white to continue but it deserves by no means a question mark.

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Originally posted by Svin1
C'mon, somebody must have some 1...Nf6 games in their archives they want to share!

If anyone wants to play an Alekhine Defence game please challenge me. Black or white, rated or unrated, you decide, but please keep the timeout setting at 7/7 or higher.
i usually don't play alekhine because it is a good chance that the opponent will choose to ignore it: 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 and from now on black has a very wide variety of moves but chances are that it will transpose quickly


if you don't like 1.e4 e5 you should try the Sicilian 1... c5 or if you be lazy man and don't wanna learn all the variations (i know i am) try pirc defence (Pi-R-Uf in some countries) 1... d6.
these openings can be played regardless of what moves white plays after 1.e4

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Originally posted by Gambitzoid
there is no real refutation it is very playable move, of course there are plenty of options for white to continue but it deserves by no means a question mark.
maneuvers that waste a move do deserve question marks.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
maneuvers that waste a move do deserve question marks.
not if it leaves white in a rather open and difficult to protect position

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Thanks for the input everybody. Nyxie and ATY: nice games!

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ng8 seems ... interesting. I will look into the line when I'm more comfortable with the traditional line. Thanks for the real world example Mephisto.

I just finished Game 1158058 which illustrates the general theme very well. Here's the board after 8 moves


My g8 knight got to move 15 times in the first 30 moves of the game!

If anybody wants to try out the Alekhine Defence (rated or unrated, black or white, set-piece from an interesting position) send a challenge over, just keep the timebank at 7/7 or higher.