Am I overlooking something?

Originally posted by tomtom232
17...a6 18...b5 disclaimer: I'm not trying to argue for arguments sake, I am just trying to pick your brain and maybe learn a thing or two.

Also after 17...a6 white can play 18.Rc1 - 18...b5 19.a5 with serious trouble for black. If 18...Bxd3 then 19.Rc7 again.

Originally posted by Cimon
Also after 17...a6 white can play 18.Rc1 - 18...b5 19.a5 with serious trouble for black. If 18...Bxd3 then 19.Rc7 again.

Ok ok black has to fight to draw but if white slips black can win. I don't think the draw is too too too hard though.

Originally posted by tomtom232
Ok ok black has to fight to draw but if white slips black can win. I don't think the draw is too too too hard though.

Well. To compare with starting position of this thread (which is equal for both sides) you should agree that black reached obviously worse position.
In such kind of positions defender (black) usually needs to solve more complicated tasks. In my opinion positional players like Kramnik, Anand or Gelfand would win that position even against top players.

Originally posted by Cimon
Well. To compare with starting position of this thread (which is equal for both sides) you should agree that black reached obviously worse position.
In such kind of positions defender (black) usually needs to solve more complicated tasks. In my opinion positional players like Kramnik, Anand or Gelfand would win that position even against top players.

Yes, but it still seems better than the move given in the OP.

Originally posted by tomtom232
Yes, but it still seems better than the move given in the OP.

OP?

Originally posted by Cimon
OP?

Oh. it stands for original post. The move given was 1...e5