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  1. Subscriber gregsflat
    William Penn's gaze
    09 Mar '14 23:31
    Game 10469800 This game became an automatic draw. I don't understand, I had just achieved a 2nd queen, and I had the advantage, but it said I couldn't win. Is there anyone that can explain it?
  2. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    09 Mar '14 23:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by gregsflat
    Game 10469800 This game became an automatic draw. I don't understand, I had just achieved a 2nd queen, and I had the advantage, but it said I couldn't win. Is there anyone that can explain it?
    My friend, you have just been introduced to the bad karma response to greed known as the stalemate.

    You captured his queen and guaranteed that your opponent had no legal move.

    When a player has no legal move, but his king is not in check, the game ends in stalemate.

    You have just encouraged every player in the world to play on to the bitter end. Next time don't play with your food. Just mate the guy and move on.
  3. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    09 Mar '14 23:42
    Originally posted by gregsflat
    Game 10469800 This game became an automatic draw. I don't understand, I had just achieved a 2nd queen, and I had the advantage, but it said I couldn't win. Is there anyone that can explain it?
    That's stalemate - your opponent has no legal moves.

    If you had captured with the queen instead of the pawn you would have had checkmate.
  4. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    10 Mar '14 00:19
    Don't listen to them, they are pulling your leg. It has to be a system glitch, send feedback and cuss them out. That will get quick action.
  5. 10 Mar '14 00:46
    Hi Greg.

    You have had two stalemates before, Game 7985579 and Game 8514301

    In Game 7985579 you were getting beaten badly but your opponent stalemated you.

    In Game 8514301 You were winning easily and then stalemated your opponent.

    Both these games were scored as a draw.
  6. Subscriber gregsflat
    William Penn's gaze
    10 Mar '14 00:52 / 1 edit
    Wow, great lesson. All valid points. Greenpawn, those that forget the past are bound to repeat it, but it's the first time I realized something about this "draw" was different. How did you access old records like that? I see that I could have had checkmate, but blew it.
  7. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    10 Mar '14 00:56
    Originally posted by gregsflat
    Wow, great lesson. All valid points. Greenpawn, those that forget the past are bound to repeat it, but it's the first time I realized something about this "draw" was different. How did you access old records like that? I see that I could have had checkmate, but blew it.
    I learned the same way, unfortunately. I used to play with my food like a cat. Now I eat like a dog- rip, swallow, and run like heck!
  8. Standard member RBHILL
    Acts 13:48
    10 Mar '14 01:44
    Originally posted by gregsflat
    Game 10469800 This game became an automatic draw. I don't understand, I had just achieved a 2nd queen, and I had the advantage, but it said I couldn't win. Is there anyone that can explain it?
    QxQ would have mated.
  9. 10 Mar '14 02:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    QxQ would have mated.
    There are quite a few moves that would have mated.

    52...Qxb2 is mate
    51...Qdb3 is mate, Qgb3 is mate, Qa4 is mate
    48...Qa4+ 49. Qa3 Rg2 is mate
  10. 10 Mar '14 03:22
    Hi Greg.

    I can see how it slips one's mind. Just a few minutes ago I was looking
    at a load of games I played v the Caro Kann.
    I had forgotten all about a few nice wins I had with the White side.
    One I can barely recall at all, but the losses. I can remember those.

    When I saw you had played a load of games I thought you must have
    had a stalemate in the past. So a quick flck through your games found two.
    (surprised some of the others lads did not do the same) There may indeed
    be others I stopped looking after finding two.
  11. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    10 Mar '14 07:36
    On a positive note, that is one of the most spectacular stalemates i've seen in a long time. 😀