Originally posted by Mephisto2You may be a good chess player, but you are really dense.
But they should not be in conflict with the FIDE rules which are the only rules that apply to everybody playing the game called 'chess' somewhere in the world.
It is a matter of fact that USCF rules are in conflict with FIDE rules.
It is a matter of fact that FIDE rules do not apply in non-FIDE USCF events. No USCF tournament director is bound by the regulations put forth by FIDE.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI have to agree with you, DoctorScribbles. He's making a mute point since FIDE rules have nothing to do with our rules and/or our tournaments.
You may be a good chess player, but you are really dense.
It is a matter of fact that USCF rules are in conflict with FIDE rules.
It is a matter of fact that FIDE rules do not apply in non-FIDE USCF events. No USCF tournament director is bound by the regulations put forth by FIDE.
BTW, you asked where to go to see the new USCF rules. I suggest you go to the USCF website and look there.
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Originally posted by arrakisDo you know that they are there? I have good reason to believe they are not. The last I heard, the situation with the USCF rules is in a ridiculous legal state. Apparently, the publisher that publishes the book on the USCF rules is adamant about asserting its copyrights and refuses to allow the rules to be posted or reproduced anywhere else, and the USCF's legal advisors have advised them to comply with the publisher. This was true at least as of about a year ago, and it's the reason why the USCF rules have always been impossible find on the web. Is this no longer the case?
BTW, you asked where to go to see the new USCF rules. I suggest you go to the USCF website and look there.
How did you come about the information regarding the rule change?
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI played in the Michigan State Championship a couple weeks ago and the TD announced the new rules. I'm sure these rules are not "hidden" from the public and if you look hard enough they will surface. On the other hand if you can't find them then ask your local TD. He has to have the information available in case someone challenges it.
Do you know that they are there? I have good reason to believe they are not. The last I heard, the situation with the USCF rules is in a ridiculous legal state. Apparently, the publisher that publishes the book on the USCF rules is adamant about asserting its copyrights and refuses to allow the rules to be posted or reproduced anywhere else, and t ...[text shortened]... this no longer the case?
How did you come about the information regarding the rule change?
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Originally posted by arrakisBut that's the very crux of the controversy! The USCF has painted itself into a corner where it doesn't even have the right to provide a list of its rules to its players or directors. They can only be purchased in the published book controlled by the publisher. If you go back to that TD and have him look up some rule, I'm sure he will turn to the published book that he or somebody paid for and not something provided by the USCF. I'd like to know how he came to know of the rule change. I don't recall reading about it in Chess Life, although I rarely read everything in it.
I'm sure these rules are not "hidden" from the public and if you look hard enough they will surface. On the other hand if you can't find them then ask your local TD. He has to have the information available in case someone challenges it.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI'll send your question to the TD who told me about the rule... may take a day or so to get a reply from him.
But that's the very crux of the controversy! The USCF has painted itself into a corner where it doesn't even have the right to provide a list of its rules to its players or directors. They can only be purchased in the published book controlled by the publisher. If you go back to that TD and have him look up some rule, I'm sure he will turn to the ...[text shortened]... e. I don't recall reading about it in Chess Life, although I rarely read everything in it.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWell, if that is the case, it is sad. I can only hope then that you wouldn't contaminate the rest of the world (again).
You may be a good chess player, but you are really dense.
It is a matter of fact that USCF rules are in conflict with FIDE rules.
It is a matter of fact that FIDE rules do not apply in non-FIDE USCF events. No USCF tournament director is bound by the regulations put forth by FIDE.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesAh, it took me a while but I finally have a response for you!
Great, thanks! I have been eagerly awaiting this rule change.
Here is the link Don. It was approved by the delagates at the US Open. Brad Rogers said it was to be enforced starting on Jan 1 2007.
http://www.uschess.org/ratings/ruleschangeRule15A.pdf
Originally posted by arrakisI never much like it when an opponent uses his own notebook to keep score; it seems to me he could look over prior games in that opening and even notes in other games when you're not at the table. It only takes a few minutes after the game to transpose the moves from the tournament scoresheets to my notebook (which is what I do) so to my mind a rule barring such notebooks (I don't know what "recording devices" the rule is referring to) would be a good one. And I support the change in 15(a); your move isn't completed until you make it and hit your clock; it's senseless to "keep score" of something before you do it.
Ah, it took me a while but I finally have a response for you!
Here is the link Don. It was approved by the delagates at the US Open. Brad Rogers said it was to be enforced starting on Jan 1 2007.
http://www.uschess.org/ratings/ruleschangeRule15A.pdf
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Originally posted by no1marauderhttp://www.monroi.com/
I don't know what "recording devices" the rule is referring to
These were actually mandatory on the top boards at this summer's Las Vegas Chess Festival. They broadcast wirelessly to the TD's desk for electronic display of the boards on a projection screen.