27 Dec 06
I'd like to put "all" of my games into a pgn (or free database like scid) -- and then run an analyzer that will at a minimum put the +/- strength rating on each move.
I have Fritz 8 and ChessMaster 10 -- but can't figure out how to process more than one game at a time.
I'm thinking of a process that I can start and let it run (for days and days).
Nonny
27 Dec 06
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Originally posted by nonnymooseFirst, do the work yourself. Go over each game and figure out why you lost. You will learn more from that.
I'd like to put "all" of my games into a pgn (or free database like scid) -- and then run an analyzer that will at a minimum put the +/- strength rating on each move.
I have Fritz 8 and ChessMaster 10 -- but can't figure out how to process more than one game at a time.
I'm thinking of a process that I can start and let it run (for days and days).
Nonny
Now for your question:
Open up fritz, press f12->opens up the database window.
Put the games you want into that.
Once you got all your games in there, hold down ctrl and select the game you want analysed.
Then go to tools ->analyses ->full analyses.
pick the option you want . Press okay and you are set.
Usually it takes 40 min to go over 1 game for me.
R K
Edit: I strongly recommend you go over your games yourself and figure out why you lost. In most cases it was a simple tactic or blunder. There is no point getting a computer to do detailed analysis of a game you lost because of a silly mistake and then looking over the analysis.
I used to get the computer to analyse all my games and then I went over it but you learn less that way. First you analyse yourself , then compare it with the computers analyse and you will fully understand what you did wrong.
R K
28 Dec 06
Originally posted by RahimKI not sure if that works, I tried to work out how the guy would do it so I control clicked two of my games and did the analysis. Once the analysis is finished it went straight onto the next game however I couldn't see a way of getting back to the 1st game that it analyzed. The games were far apart in the database so it may work if they were next to each other however fritz has a habit of wiping any info on the games, so I'm not even sure it can be done.
First, do the work yourself. Go over each game and figure out why you lost. You will learn more from that.
Now for your question:
Open up fritz, press f12->opens up the database window.
Put the games you want into that.
Once you got all your games in there, hold down ctrl and select the game you want analysed.
Then go to tools ->analyses ->fu ...[text shortened]... n compare it with the computers analyse and you will fully understand what you did wrong.
R K
28 Dec 06
Originally posted by AudaciousIt can be done. I've used it many times.
I not sure if that works, I tried to work out how the guy would do it so I control clicked two of my games and did the analysis. Once the analysis is finished it went straight onto the next game however I couldn't see a way of getting back to the 1st game that it analyzed. The games were far apart in the database so it may work if they were next to each ot ...[text shortened]... owever fritz has a habit of wiping any info on the games, so I'm not even sure it can be done.
If you want it to analyse 2 games, then after game 1 is done it goes straight to game 2. Once game 2 is done, it will show you the analyses for game 2.
Then go back to your db and find where you put game 1 and the analyses will be there.
And fritz wiping the info for the game. That is in the options you select. You can have it go through the game and wipe all previous info or go over the game and save the game again.
So you have 2 identical games. One with your own analysis and one with fritz analyses.
Let me see if I can help you out, I'll get fritz:
okay open fritz press f12 ->db window.
I select 3 games randomly, they aren't beside each other.
Now go to tools analysis full
Annotations -> uncheck erase old annotations(leave your original info there)
then storage -> replace erases old and puts new.
Append saves the game over again. Pick append.
And you are set. Let me know if that won't work for you.
Rahim K
OO and make sure you are doing the analysis through the db window. You get more options in the db window then the normal fritz window for analysis!
30 Dec 06
thanks for the tips on Fritz.....I had just finally figured that out for myself
And you are right -- best to at least go over the games myself -- if for no other reason than to not waste time analyzing a game with obvious blunders.
But "why the computer" -- because once you get past obvious blunders, a computer analysis helps me see where I've made positional errors that aren't obvious to me at my current level of understanding.
When I see a move that changes the position -200 pts but I hadn't lost a pawn or piece -- then I know there's something going on that I don't understand -- and thus I can begin to understand.
Thanks again,
Nonny
30 Dec 06
Originally posted by nonnymooseTo be honest, very rarely are my games lost because of positional mistakes. Most players around 1800 and lower don't lose because of positional mistakes.
thanks for the tips on Fritz.....I had just finally figured that out for myself
And you are right -- best to at least go over the games myself -- if for no other reason than to not waste time analyzing a game with obvious blunders.
But "why the computer" -- because once you get past obvious blunders, a computer analysis helps me see where I've ma ...[text shortened]... that I don't understand -- and thus I can begin to understand.
Thanks again,
Nonny
Yes it's good to let the computer should you some of the positional stuff but it won't help as much right now. Better to focus on the tactical stuff right now.
What I do is get a notebook, analyse my game (about 2-3 hours) and then stick it into fritz and compare.
30 Dec 06
Originally posted by nonnymooseTry this:
Another question -- is there an option to have the rating/strength of each position (in terms of 1/100 pawns) put into the analysis?
Nonny
Fritz->Tools->Options->Clocks+Notation->Store evaluation.
Then run Full analysis and see if that works.
I don't care to much about the exact numbers of the position.
There is also this other analysis, BLUNDER Check. Use that if you want numbers. I like full analysis because of the comments it give you. You know the dumb ones hehe:
Doesn't get the bull of the ice, hoping against hope, etc...
Also with Full analysis they have an option at the top right, that says Training. If you check that off then every 1/3 games it makes tactical puzzles for you from your game. I tried it a few times then turned it off.
30 Dec 06
Originally posted by nonnymooseSet the threshold and not the time.
by the way, while we are on the topic -- what's a good amount of time to set for the analysis? 30sec, 1min? I know the longer the better, but what's a good compromise between quality of result and time?
Nonny
30 is the default -> That is equal to 1 tempi or 1/3 of a pawn.
So if any side makes a mistake which is more then 1/3 of a pawn, fritz will analyses that position.
I set mine to 25 because i'm pick and I like to see the positional stuff because at 1800+, it makes a difference.
Mine usually takes 40 minutes for 1 game (around 30 moves).