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    16 Jul '09 13:29
    Originally posted by tonytiger41
    karpov losing game after game at the donostia tournament in spain.
    chess has evolved greatly over the last ten years
    I think it's entirely due to do with Karpov getting old rather than chess "evolving". At his peak he was one of best ever.
  2. Kalispell, MT
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    16 Jul '09 18:07
    Originally posted by tonytiger41
    karpov losing game after game at the donostia tournament in spain.
    chess has evolved greatly over the last ten years
    hmm...
    Same squares, same pieces....



    same principles...


    new deeper memorizations.


    Whats changed? Whats evolved?
    Peoples willingness to follow principles several hundred years old?
    The ideas were always there. We're just beginning to see how right
    we always were.

    -GIN
  3. Standard memberwormwood
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    16 Jul '09 18:18
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    Whats changed? Whats evolved?
    for one, it's a no-brainer to get very strong opponents to play against, within seconds. that's bound to broaden the GM-level considerably.

    the other thing, karpov probably hasn't really trained for a decade or two. no matter how strong base he has, he must've lost the best sharpness. I doubt his age itself has much to do with it.
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    17 Jul '09 14:311 edit
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    hmm...
    Same squares, same pieces....



    same principles...


    new deeper memorizations.


    Whats changed? Whats evolved?
    Peoples willingness to follow principles several hundred years old?
    The ideas were always there. We're just beginning to see how right
    we always were.

    -GIN
    the chess evolution is clearly due to the influence of computer-like tactics and database study.

    if you don't detect the evolution, it is likely you do not remember the dark ages before computers became good.

    we use to spend hours working out complex positions, but now we can observe fritz churn out and work out so much in mere minutes. this method of study claerly influence the style of the new generation of top chess players.
  5. Standard memberwormwood
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    17 Jul '09 14:34
    Originally posted by tonytiger41
    we use to spend hours working out complex positions, but now we can observe fritz churn out and work out so much in mere minutes.
    that's likely to have a harmful effect rather than improving.
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    17 Jul '09 14:39
    Originally posted by wormwood
    that's likely to have a harmful effect rather than improving.
    i think seeing a multitude of variations is beneficial. being shown all the stuff that i missed is clearly instructional.
  7. Standard memberwormwood
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    17 Jul '09 14:42
    Originally posted by tonytiger41
    i think seeing a multitude of variations is beneficial. being shown all the stuff that i missed is clearly instructional.
    easy come, easy go. I think working it out for hours and having a revelation is much more beneficial.
  8. Kalispell, MT
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    19 Jul '09 21:04
    Originally posted by wormwood
    easy come, easy go. I think working it out for hours and having a revelation is much more beneficial.
    and the same principles of learning, teaching, and growth still apply.


    The game really hasn't changed that much.





    -GIN
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    20 Jul '09 02:28
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    and the same principles of learning, teaching, and growth still apply.


    The game really hasn't changed that much.





    -GIN
    I imagine all active GMs spend many hours every day just to stay current and maintain their form. If you stop doing it for years, there is no way you can compete. The same is true in all sports.
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    20 Jul '09 02:33
    Originally posted by Habeascorp
    Apparently he likes snooker too and played steve davis. The man is a legend.
    I have played the johnny archer a game of 8 ball and won. But, that doesn't say anything about my game....






    I mostly just wanted to brag. 😀
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