20 Oct 05
Originally posted by yashsrNo such rule. There is, however, a rule that states that a draw can be claimed if 50 full moves are completed in a row without a pawn move or a piece capture.
Hi,
I have heard that when only a king is left of either black or white, the player can claim a draw after 16 moves (32 half moves) of the capture.
Is this true?
20 Oct 05
Originally posted by yashsrI have heard this "rule" repeated with varying numbers of moves mentioned. I have no idea where it originated, but it seems to be not-so-uncommon misconception. I helped the local high school organize a community chess night once, and was playing one of the school team member's fathers. He was terrible, but that is beside the point. When he was left with only his King and a handfull of pawns, he immediately began counting his moves. Rather than confronting him, and possibly embarrasing him in front of his son, I elected to just concentrate on finding the absolute fastest mate possible...which only took four or five moves (I had my queen and both of my rooks). I guess my point is that you aren't alone, I have also heard this erroneous idea.
Hi,
I have heard that when only a king is left of either black or white, the player can claim a draw after 16 moves (32 half moves) of the capture.
Is this true?
20 Oct 05
Thanks, so it is a common misconception, thats what I thought before posting this thread.
Actually, what I heard was (just making it clear):
Say I have black and my opponent has white. Black only has a king and a pawn left. So if the white kills the pawn, black is left only with a king. Black then starts counting and if the white is unable to checkmate black within 16 full moves, the game ends as a draw/stalemate. Thus, what we used to do never kill the last pawn and let it be there so that we would have a lot of time to checkmate.
But obviously, this is not the case as you guys pointed out. Thanks! 🙂
20 Oct 05
Originally posted by yashsrGo and learn the rules!
Thanks, so it is a common misconception, thats what I thought before posting this thread.
Actually, what I heard was (just making it clear):
Say I have black and my opponent has white. Black only has a king and a pawn left. So if the white kills the pawn, black is left only with a king. Black then starts counting and if the white is unable to checkmate bl ...[text shortened]... of time to checkmate.
But obviously, this is not the case as you guys pointed out. Thanks! 🙂
20 Oct 05
Originally posted by BowmannBowmann, you should learn the rules.
More than 50 in some cases 😉
"9.3
The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, if
1. he writes his move on his scoresheet, and declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move which shall result in the last 50 moves having been made by each player without the movement of any pawn and without any capture, or
2. the last 50 consecutive moves have been made by each player without the movement of any pawn and without any capture."
http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101
Footnote:
Bowmann is not completely wrong here. USCF rule 14F1 states, in part, "If the director wishes to allow more than 50 moves for certain positions, details must be posted at the tournament before the first round."
20 Oct 05
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Originally posted by BowmannHave you been trolling so actively that you fail to remember who you've attacked, and when?
Thread? Evidence...?
I like pawns because they become queens.
(Of course, they may also become knights, bishops, and rooks. Most often, however, they are captured in battle. When they remain, they create the landscape in which the rest of the army does battle. ad nauseum.)
You read a sentence like one of those above, inserted a word that was not there in order to accomodate your misunderstanding ('pawns always become queens'😉, and went on the attack. Bbarr was able and willing to rescue you so that others had an idea of what you were talking about.
This time, I chose to rescue your assertion from obscurity and misunderstanding, despite your prior hostility. You shine a lot of beams without shedding much light.