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    Yes yes, but they are buried in the pauper's grave.
  2. Standard memberKorch
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    01 Jan '07 20:28
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    Yes yes, but they are buried in the pauper's grave.
    But their main ideas are still alive.
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    01 Jan '07 20:31
    well, what are their ideas?
  4. Standard memberKorch
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    01 Jan '07 21:45
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    well, what are their ideas?
    In few words - they though that positional playing are more important than tactics and they introduced main principles of positional play - especialy Steinitz.
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    ok?
  6. Standard memberKorch
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    01 Jan '07 22:052 edits
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    ok?
    So ignoring positional factors in chess is ignorance.

    upd. Because most basic principles of their theory are actual today.
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    01 Jan '07 22:06
    Originally posted by Korch
    So ignoring positional factors in chess is ignorance.
    OR you mean ignoring positional chess is just a person's preference?
  8. Standard memberKorch
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    01 Jan '07 22:08
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    OR you mean ignoring positional chess is just a person's preference?
    I would say that ignoring positional chess is ignorance in chess 🙂
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    01 Jan '07 22:09
    Originally posted by Korch
    I would say that ignoring positional chess is ignorance in chess 🙂
    see? u're just being a bully. I bet u r born between august 22-september 21.
  10. Standard memberKorch
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    01 Jan '07 22:13
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    see? u're just being a bully. I bet u r born between august 22-september 21.
    You would lost.

    And at least I`m polite enough for not calling you idiot 🙂
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    01 Jan '07 22:15
    Originally posted by Von Bardeleben
    see? u're just being a bully. I bet u r born between august 22-september 21.
    I think the OP was actually asking for help. Why not keep your pissing contest in one place:

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=59402
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    The first ten moves of a chess game are arguably the most important moves of the game. If you don't have a clue how to position your pieces in the opening, then you are going to be in serious trouble against someone who knows standard opening theory. A more correct way of stating that "openings are not important," would be to say that it is not necessary to know a particular opening, as long as you play the opening moves with common sense. And that common sense chess opening goes all the way back to Philidor. You must play the opening correctly, or hope that your opponent is a dolt.
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    http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/english/Default.aspx
  14. Donationbriancron
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    02 Jan '07 22:441 edit
    wow... nice thread

    I think the last 10 moves are the most important... otherwise they wouldn't be the last 10.

    Savate, you don't have to know openings to learn to count. That game was traumatic but it started to go wrong because you didn't do a forcecount. If you don't have as many defenders as he has attackers don't stick the pawn out there.

    Your second move 2. g4 dropped a pawn to the bishop. I don't mind that move much since I have been playing a lot of gambits lately but it's only a gambit if you meant to do it...

    I wouldn't worry about your openings at all right now except to say that your first 4 moves until you know better should always be!!! 1. e4, 2. Nf3, 3. Bishop to somewhere safe (not d3) then 4. Castle.

    From there make sure you know who is attacking what before you begin exchanging pieces and pawns.

    For your studying... you only need tactics.

    nevermind the debate about strategy vrs tactics... it's dumb... It's like runners debating which foot makes them fastest, right or left.

    Until you understand tactics you won't understand openings or the threats hidden in strategy.

    Most important, have fun.
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