Attention Non Subs!

Originally posted by clandarkfire
You're in!

@Tiwaking I'm not sure if you got my message, but you have to join the club to compete, as it's being done in the club forum.

Just got home from work. I got you message and am reading the pairing rules now

Edit: :sees RevRSleeker is rated 2167:

I am so going to get smashed. There are 50 odd people above me!

I am so going to get smashed

edit2: Gruve is currently playing his maximum amount of games (6), what do I do? Wait?

Originally posted by Tiwaking
Just got home from work. I got you message and am reading the pairing rules now

Edit: :sees RevRSleeker is rated 2167:

I am so going to get smashed. There are 50 odd people above me!

I am so going to get smashed

edit2: Gruve is currently playing his maximum amount of games (6), what do I do? Wait?

Rulebook; Setting up the games;

"While this tournament is open to both Subscribers and Non-Subscribers, the majority of the players are non subscribers. Since non subscribers can generally only play six games at one time, you may have to wait for a week or so before you can challenge your opponent."

Read all rules 😉

toet.

Tiwaking.....oh dear....

"RevRSleeker is rated 2167: I am so going to get smashed. "

What is the point of me proving the numbers mean totally nothing
and clandarkfire organising this tournament if you are going to
chalk up losses before a pawn is pushed.

Have you played over any of the Rev's games?

V lower graded players he's not a nudger, he's a waiter.

I nudge for errors, I like to wander in mutual blunderland.
Danish, Latvians and Wing Gambits.

The Rev plays it safe and solid and waits for the blunder.
This is the profesional way (and actually a good path to follow.)

See game Game 5460216 all that fart-assing about between moves
18-38 is him waiting for a blunder.

Eventually he comes up with a Q v 3 bits game. Again after that
I think he does not set any problems (traps) just sits and waits....
...like a spider....he can do this part of the game very well.

Look at this v a player graded 891 Game 5670452.

He allowed White a solid position (most of it looks theory?).
Without tempting him to think for himself and blunder.

The Rev was sharp enough to find 25...Bg4 but should never have been
given the opportunity. 23.Nxe7+ and 24.Nf5 Black is going to have
wait a long time for a blunder there.

Instead White played 23.h4. It's always a bloody pawn move.
Things went screwy from there.

An unprotected piece on the board, a check in the position. 0-1.

Don't do anything silly in the opening else he will bounce you.

If he plays to form he will let you alone and wait.

If the position tempers out and it looks like there is nothing on.
Then the chances are there is nothing on.

Weak players think they should always be doing something.
No. Often it's the first player who thinks of a plan losses.
Leave your pawns alone. Don't give him targets.
Shuffle about and wait.

I played out a few of your games, all wins and one horrid loss.
Game 7147192 what that all about?

Some nice wrap ups but fear you will go for him when not fully
developed and come unstuck. He will not make a silly opening move
but wait for you to over reach.

Use your low grade against him.
If done correctly he may come for you.

Then it's down to hand to hand fighting, tactics.
Here is your chance to steal a win in a tactical violent free for all
where anything can happen.

Hi GP, as someone who has played against RevRSleeker, (and gone through a few games looking for weaknesses,😲) I'd say not making any blunder's probably isn't quite enough. Tiwaking, however, still has good chances; he is playing someone rated in the 1500s for the first round, and if he progresses, most likely the second round too.

However, I have to put my foot down when you tell people to just sit and not do anything. You don't get better by not doing anything; would we have any immortal or opera games if everyone just sat around and waited to do anything. Finding a plan is a huge part of the game; something most players below 1600 or so have not yet learned to do. I realize you have waaay more experience doing so than I do, but I doubt you have played many games following that bit of advice.

BTW if anyone is interested in following this tournament of 134 players, the progress can be followed here:

http://tinyurl.com/23zh7ef

Hi Clan.

Just looked at games v -1400 where he seems to wait and not toss
them a gambit pawn or two.
He has a different game plan v the good players.

Win v David Tebb Game 7047772 in KID caught my eye.
(thought DT usually plays the Grunfeld).

Just giving Tiwaking a wee tug (and some hope).

Good idea this tournament, it might get a few of them to join.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
I played out a few of your games, all wins and one horrid loss.
Game 7147192 what that all about?

Thank you for your kind advice greenpawn!

Please dont bring that game up again. It is the worst game I have ever played in the history of games I have ever played, OTB or otherwise. It makes me cry an gnash my teeth whenever I think bout, hear or see it.

The move order was MEANT to be (obviously) 8. ... d6

Then something or rather, but my brain broke and went "Ng2 is a great move!"

That should never happen again. If it does, I may strangle myself with my keyboard cord.


Not to death, obviously.


And yes. I do understand that a waiting move is sometimes better than an attacking one.

Originally posted by Tiwaking

And yes. I do understand that a waiting move is sometimes better than an attacking one.

Psst! - Don't listen to that last bit. Obviously a move doesn't need to be an attacking move, but it should serve a purpose; somehow improving your position or carrying out your plan. Even engines can't understand this - They often play moves that don't make any sense because they don't see any way to win material. Just because there is no immediate winning line doesn't mean you should start shuffling your pieces around waiting for a blunder.

"Obviously a move doesn't need to be an attacking move,
but it should serve a purpose; somehow improving your position
or carrying out your plan. "

And that is precisely what I am warning the lad about.

What happens when all your pieces are on their
best squares and there is no weakness to attack?
Where is the plan?

A good player will leave his weaker opponent in the lurch
and give him no attacking move, no way to improve his
position and no plan.

If they cannot see anything to do they panic and think
they are losing and 'do something'.
That is what the good player is waiting for.

"You should leave them alone, they will win the game for you."

Is advice I've often been given by strong players when
I had to swindle a so called weaker player."

In the game RevRSleeker - magicmaster. Game 5460216
From move 17 White 'tacked' around till he saw opportunity to play 38.d5.

Black made the decison to break the pin with Bg6 and capture away from
the centre weakening e6. He was not forced to.

In a way it is a plan. The do nothing plan.

Though after Bg6 and fxg6 White had the d5 idea (c4 came right away).
he then needed to shuggle about waiting for the correct moment to play it.
(possibly mis-timed, the King should have gone back to g1 before d5
to avoid the pawn winning check.)

Good and instructive play.

But what he would have done had Black not played Bg6.
I have no idea. Tacked some more I guess.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
"Obviously a move doesn't need to be an attacking move,
but it should serve a purpose; somehow improving your position
or carrying out your plan. "

I have a chess playing friend in real life who plays OTB the infuriating prophylaxis style.

Nothing teaches you patience more than having it be beaten into you.

Oh. And using the internet on dialup

Originally posted by greenpawn34
"Obviously a move doesn't need to be an attacking move,
but it should serve a purpose; somehow improving your position
or carrying out your plan. "

And that is precisely what I am warning the lad about.

What happens when all your pieces are on their
best squares and there is no weakness to attack?
Where is the plan?

A good player will le would have done had Black not played Bg6.
I have no idea. Tacked some more I guess.

"In a way it is a plan. The do nothing plan."

Mentor during the decade of my twenties, E.M. Reubens, often stressed the importance of "high class waiting moves".



http://boylston-chess-club.blogspot.com/search?q=emil+reubens





Also: “The tactician must know what to do whenever something needs doing; the strategist must know what to do
when nothing needs doing” -Tartakover. “Only the player with the initiative has the right to attack” -Steinitz.





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:sees RevRSleeker is rated 2167:
WOOT!

On a completely unrelated matter though, i see that Weyerstrass has completed quite a lot of Tournaments, and he is a non-subscriber. Now how did that happen?

Sometime in the past Weyerstrass was a subscriber.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]"In a way it is a plan. The do nothing plan."

Mentor during the decade of my twenties, E.M. Reubens, often stressed the importance of "high class waiting moves".



http://boylston-chess-club.blogspot.com/search?q=emil+reubens





Also: “The tactician must know what to do whenever something needs doing; the strategist ...[text shortened]... Steinitz.





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Nice link that Gramps.

His advice.

"Join a chess club. Meet chess players of differing skill and style. Subscribe to a periodical that will keep you abreast of the important events in Chess world."

Is spot on.

Where do I get a copy of Chess - Trick and Treat?

Originally posted by greenpawn34

Nice link that Gramps.

His advice.

"Join a chess club. Meet chess players of differing skill and style. Subscribe to a periodical that will keep you abreast of the important events in Chess world."

Is spot on.

Where do I get a copy of Chess - Trick and Treat?

Copyright, 1965 by Bruce Humphries, Boston International Pocket Library, Edited by Edmund R. Brown with an Introduction by IGM and Former USA Champion Larry Evans. Seems anybody should be able to find and purchase a tattered copy of this unassuming 128 page (green & white chessboard/black rook logo graphic cover) paperback for sale for a song on the internet.



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OK boys you heard Gramps.

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