If you lose in the first 6 moves maybe the database won the game.
But if you lose in the middle or the endgame most games have allready moved out of the "Book" by then, and you probably lost to yourself or your opponents play.
If you decide in life to never use a baseball mitt, yet join in on a game of baseball and still refuse to use your mitt, who is to blame?
Who should feel sorry for you?
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Originally posted by WeadleyOutside help is outside help. Chess is not baseball. A chess lover would know that. OK databases in CC chess are legal that is the rule at RHP. But its still help from a source other than you.
If you lose in the first 6 moves maybe the database won the game.
But if you lose in the middle or the endgame most games have allready moved out of the "Book" by then, and you probably lost to yourself or your opponents play.
If you ...[text shortened]... to use your mitt, who is to blame?
Who should feel sorry for you?
Everyone knows a good knowledge of openings in chess gives anyone who knows them a good advantage over someone who doesn't. If your playing a game and the play is fairly fast. Then your opponent goes away for a half hour, or three days and comes back with a move you could never have thought of and he couldn't think of, taken from another source. That's outside help. If he can’t think of a move on his own, then is he playing the game or is someone else playing the game? Openenings, tactics. postional play, middle, and end-game. They are all related in chess. If your losing at baseball do you ask your oponents to look away while you change the scoreboard?
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Originally posted by JaylearnerMaybe you could politely ask your opponents to refrain from educating themselves for the duration of time they are a member of RHP. You may also have to ask if it's possible for an admin to restrict your access to completed games here at RHP, (you could be tempted to review that database.)
Outside help is outside help. Chess is not baseball. A chess lover would know that. OK databases in CC chess are legal that is the rule at RHP. But its still help from a source other than you.
Everyone knows a good knowledge of opening ...[text shortened]... ask your oponents to look away while you change the scoreboard?
Originally posted by mantawaIt seams there is a lot of support for the use of databases while playing, and the replies seem to a bit angry. Aren’t people allowed to have opinions. I was unaware some (not all) of my opponents were using databases while playing. It’s only now that I’m starting to realize this sort of info exists for help during a chess game, but then I’m new to this type of Correspondence Chess game, In fact I’m new to computers. Times change we must try to learn to live with that, and we can only do what we consider to be right, or best for our own ideas and our game. I don’t use databases while playing but I do go over my old games especially the ones I loose, and try not to make the same mistake twice, But to leave a game to look for a move out of book or database seems wrong to me. Internet chess of any kind is trust and honour. We can never know what is going on unless it’s a face-to-face game. Good luck and God bless you all! Databases or not I’m enjoying my games of chess at red-hot pawn. WINNING IS GREAT. LOSING IS LEARNING, Jay the chess learner.
Maybe you could politely ask your opponents to refrain from educating themselves for the duration of time they are a member of RHP. You may also have to ask if it's possible for an admin to restrict your access to completed games here at RHP, (you could be tempted to review that database.)