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bad online copy of chernev's 1000 games?

bad online copy of chernev's 1000 games?

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I recently downloaded Chernev's 1000 miniature games and have been playing through them. In the first 5 games I have already run into 2 mistakes in the pgs. They are in algebraic notation so I don't know how I could be misreading them. Here is one example.

[Event "London"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1870.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Potter"]
[Black "Amateur"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[EventDate "2007.08.16"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Na5 5. Nxe5 Nxe4 6. d3 Nc5 7. Bxf7+ Ke7
8. Bg5+ Kd6 9. Nb5+ Kxe5 10. f4+ Kf5 11. Nd4+ Kg4 12. h3+ Kg3 13. Ne2+ Kxg2 14.
Bd5+ Ne4 15. Bxe4# 1-0

Shouldn't the game end on move 11 with checkmate? Does anyone have a hard copy of the book and does it have the same mistakes?

In the second game white loses after playing the famed castle before moving the king's knght technique!

[Event "Brighton"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1845.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kennedy"]
[Black "Amateur"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. dxe5 Nxf2 5. O-O Nxd1 0-1

david

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Originally posted by dzhafner
I recently downloaded Chernev's 1000 miniature games and have been playing through them. In the first 5 games I have already run into 2 mistakes in the pgs. They are in algebraic notation so I don't know how I could be misreading them. Here is one example.

[Event "London"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1870.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Potter"]
[Black "Amateu ...[text shortened]... 6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. dxe5 Nxf2 5. O-O Nxd1 0-1

david
I do not understand your message - in the first game, it is no mate on move eleven and in the second game, the ending position leaves a mate in two for White.

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Originally posted by dzhafner
I recently downloaded Chernev's 1000 miniature games and have been playing through them. In the first 5 games I have already run into 2 mistakes in the pgs. They are in algebraic notation so I don't know how I could be misreading them. Here is one example.

[Event "London"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1870.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Potter"]
[Black "Amateu ...[text shortened]... 6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. dxe5 Nxf2 5. O-O Nxd1 0-1

david
In the first game, White gave his opponent queen odds. So you need to remove the white queen at the beginning of the game. So it's not really mate at move 11.

I didn't check the second example, but it was also an odds game with the g1 knight removed before starting the game. I suspect that's the problem with that game.

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Aha, yes, the PGNs are "setup" games - read the "fen" part to set up the initial position.

[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]

...corresponds to...

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You mentioned this one.

[Event "London"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1870.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Potter"]
[Black "Amateur"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[EventDate "2007.08.16"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Na5 5. Nxe5 Nxe4 6. d3 Nc5 7. Bxf7+ Ke7
8. Bg5+ Kd6 9. Nb5+ Kxe5 10. f4+ Kf5 11. Nd4+ Kg4 12. h3+ Kg3 13. Ne2+ Kxg2 14.
Bd5+ Ne4 15. Bxe4# 1-0

It is in fact a queen odds game.

Do you get this in the free online version ?

" Mr. Potter does the impossible! He gives his opponent the terrific odds of a Queen, makes only six moves and then announces a forced checkmate in nine more moves! "

There is also a diagram after move 6 in my book.

I have the 1987 Edition with an introduction by Bruce Pandolfini.
Softcover Descriptive Notation

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I was just flipping through my copy and this looked kind of interesting.

Game 553

"Black's pieces seem to spring out of nowhere in a sudden attack which wins the Queen, of checkmates the king."

I'm going to end this pgn at the diagram and will conclude the game in a reply.



"Having exchanged a few pieces White believes life will be easier, but he is quickly disillusioned."

Black To Move

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The continutation was




If 17.gxf3 then Qg5+ mates (Bxf3).

"Notice to White that it is time to resign. White's Queen is attacked and he is also faced with the threat 19. ... Qxh3+ 20.Kg1 Qxg2 mate."

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