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which weapon do you prefer against the KID?
1. against the line with a6 c6 and b5 ?
2. against the main line players(e5 line)

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Usually a slipper or a belt...oh, "the KID", right...

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Originally posted by vipiu
which weapon do you prefer against the KID?
1. against the line with a6 c6 and b5 ?
2. against the main line players(e5 line)
4 Pawns Attack, but its seat of your pants stuff.

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Game ID 4686894 - I play black and ended up in a variation of KID.

By controlling the center and attacking strong to my weak side, my opponent was able to cut the board in half diagnaly and eliminated any rook lines I tried to open. It forced me to open the protection that I had. I don't play it that well, but I'm getting pretty good unless I lose the center outright.

Hope that helps!

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Originally posted by vipiu
which weapon do you prefer against the KID?
1. against the line with a6 c6 and b5 ?
2. against the main line players(e5 line)
give the KID Bayonet Attack a look, a lot of strong players on here enjoy it 🙂

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1. System with g3
2. Petrosian system or Saemisch system (with Bg5)

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Originally posted by Korch
1. System with g3
2. Petrosian system or Saemisch system (with Bg5)
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Originally posted by irontigran
give the KID Bayonet Attack a look, a lot of strong players on here enjoy it 🙂
does it work against both lines ?

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Originally posted by Korch
1. System with g3
2. Petrosian system or Saemisch system (with Bg5)
Is it possible to use one of these against both Black lines?

I use to play Saemisch system with Be3...you think that Bg5 is better because you somehow force black to play h6 and g5 ? But isn't this his normal way of black playing on K side ? will you castle long or short in your Saemisch ?

By teh way, I am not very happy with my Saemisch results, and I am considering to change it to somehthing else...with some Q side attacking line...

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Originally posted by vipiu
Is it possible to use one of these against both Black lines?

I use to play Saemisch system with Be3...you think that Bg5 is better because you somehow force black to play h6 and g5 ? But isn't this his normal way of black playing on K side ? will you castle long or short in your Saemisch ?

By teh way, I am not very happy with my Saemisch results, and I am considering to change it to somehthing else...with some Q side attacking line...
Its possible to use both of them against both black setups.

Against g3 system c6-a6-b5 is no good.

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Originally posted by Korch
Its possible to use both of them against both black setups.

Against g3 system c6-a6-b5 is no good.
when do you decide as white ?

as I see in:

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Bg5 0-0
you delay here f3 for not to commit with Saemisch ? with something like Qd2 ? because I thought black can wait with his system against Saemisch more than white...

I just checked...in white g3 lines white plays e4 even later, so somehow you will show black you play g3 line before he commits to c6-a6 line...and he might change his variation...Am I right ?

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Originally posted by vipiu
when do you decide as white ?

as I see in:

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Bg5 0-0
you delay here f3 for not to commit with Saemisch ? with something like Qd2 ? because I thought black can wait with his system against Saemisch more than white...
You should play Bg5 after you have decided what to place on f3 - pawn or knight.

Saemish - 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Bg5

Petrosian - 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 with Bg5

P.S. My previous statement was not precious - Petrosian cant arise if white avoids e5 and playing a6-c6-b5.

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Originally posted by Korch
You should play Bg5 after you have decided what to place on f3 - pawn or knight.

Saemish - 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0-0 6.Bg5

Petrosian - 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 with Bg5

P.S. My previous statement was not precious - Petrosian cant arise if white avoids e5 and playing a6-c6-b5.
but from my first question, you said against the lines with a6 c6 b5 you will play g3 line...how do you do that ? as you will not know as white what black will play...as black has not commited yet...
you will play g3 only based on your black oppoenent previous games?

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Originally posted by vipiu
but from my first question, you said against the lines with a6 c6 b5 you will play g3 line...how do you do that ? as you will not know as white what black will play...as black has not commited yet...
you will play g3 only based on your black oppoenent previous games?
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nf3 Bg7 4.g3 0-0 5.Bg2 with 0-0 to follow. In my opinion plan a6-c6-b5 is not effective against this system.

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