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Originally posted by dottewell
4 plus 2 blitz, small number of games - any of those engines could have won.
in that case - the results arn't meaningful....

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
in that case - the results arn't meaningful....
these results don't say very much, but I noticed ruffian allways does relatively well in blitz

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
in that case - the results arn't meaningful....
Still meaningful - just less so than they would be if there were more games played with longer time limits.

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
I hope you don't take offense but i must question your results.

3....Fritz 7

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5....Fritz 8


it seems somewhat illogical to assume that Fritz 7 is Stronger than the more up-to-date engine fritz 8.

so is it a typo - or did fritz 7 (somehow) beat 8??
No typos. One event does not reveal which engive is stronger. But, Fritz 7 has outperformed Fritz 8 over many similar events. Over 6000 engine-engine matches have been logged on my computers. Fritz 7 has played 163 of these, and Fritz 8 has played 164, including 6 match-ups between the two. Fritz 7 has a +2 score in these six games, and a slightly better rating over the 160+. Even so, I would not make the claim that the older version is "stronger," but it seems to have a slight edge in blitz against other engines.

I offer more data from their respective dossiers:

Fritz 7 Opponents

Hiarcs 927/57-357 games
Fritz 84/6+26 games
Ruffian 1.0.13.5/6+16 games
Comet B374.5/5+45 games
Aristarch 4.502/5-15 games
Anaconda 1.04/4+44 games
Crafty 19.113/4+24 games
Delfi 4.52.5/4+14 games
Anaconda 1.6.22.5/4+14 games
Amyan 1.5943/3+33 games
Tao 5.43/3+33 games
EXchess 4.033/3+33 games
Comet B682/3+13 games
Sjeng 12.132/3+13 games
Fritz 5.322/3+13 games
Crafty 18.122/3+13 games
Pharaon 2.622/2+22 games
SlowChess Blitz .2/2+22 games
Baron 0.99.12/2+22 games
Adam 2.6b2/2+22 games
Comet B502/2+22 games


Fritz 8 Opponents

Hiarcs 916/38-638 games
Fruit_216/14-214 games
Crafty 19.015.5/9+29 games
List 5124.5/9+09 games
Crafty 19.116/8+48 games
Anaconda 1.6.26/6+66 games
Crafty 19.173.5/6+16 games
Fritz 72/6-26 games
InmiChess3.06N4.5/5+45 games
Fritz 5.324/5+35 games
Comet B374/4+44 games
Comet B684/4+44 games
Aristarch 4.503/4+24 games
Crafty 18.123/3+33 games
Delfi 4.53/3+33 games
Hiarcs8 Bareev0.5/3-23 games
Anaconda 1.00.5/3-23 games
Tao 5.42/2+22 games
Wulebgr2/2+22 games
EXchess 4.032/2+22 games
Pharaon 3.12/2+22 games

Another engine event is running on my box since mid-day yesterday. This one is 10 minute, no increment, double round robin with the same engines that were in the event reported above. With 66 completed games of 90, the scores stand at

RybkaChallenge2 2006

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
1 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit ** 0 10 1 10 11 1 11 0 ½ 8.5/13
2 Spike 1.0a Mainz 1 ** ½ ½½ 00 1 1 ½0 11 1 8.0/13 48.25
3 Hiarcs 9 01 ½ ** 0 0 1½ 11 1½ ½ 1 8.0/13 48.25
4 Fritz 8 0 ½½ 1 ** ½ 1 1 ½0 1½ ½1 8.0/13 47.00
5 Fritz 7 01 11 1 ½ ** ½ 00 1 ½ 01 7.5/13
6 Hiarcs8 Bareev 00 0 0½ 0 ½ ** 10 11 1 1½ 6.5/14
7 Glaurung Mainz 0 0 00 0 11 01 ** 1 ½½ 1 6.0/13
8 Ruffian 1.0.1 00 ½1 0½ ½1 0 00 0 ** 1 1 5.5/14
9 Fruit 2.1 1 00 ½ 0½ ½ 0 ½½ 0 ** 10 4.5/13
10 List 512 ½ 0 0 ½0 10 0½ 0 0 01 ** 3.5/13

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you might want to use the latest free version of ruffian 😉
downloadable here:
http://playwitharena.com/download/ruffian_105.zip

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