The post that was quoted here has been removedIn the words of IM Timothy Taylor...
Originally posted by tmetzlerThis would seem to be true, but you have to consider that the approaches either side are taking to the opening are different. The Dutch is a response to d4! Black has not yet commited to a move and can thus take any number of approaches to whites 1.f4.
In the words of IM Timothy Taylor...
"...but what exactly is 1.f4 d5 ? It is precisely the Dutch in reverse, with an extra tempo. If chess has any logic at all, and I believe that it does, then if the Dutch is a sound opening for Black (and countless grandmasters and world champions agree) it must be good with an extra move!"
Originally posted by MarinkatombTrue dat, BUT somebody that plays the bird often will most likely have seen all those approaches and already analyzed them in greater depth than the black player that faces 1.f4 once in a while.
This would seem to be true, but you have to consider that the approaches either side are taking to the opening are different. The Dutch is a response to d4! Black has not yet commited to a move and can thus take any number of approaches to whites 1.f4.
Originally posted by MathurineIn a '70's pamphlet on the Bird opening, Andrew Soltis showed so much respect for From's Gambit that he recommended that the Bird player transpose into a King's Gambit (i.e. 1 f4 e5 2 e4)
Generally speaking, I loathe the Bird, but have found [Severin] From's Gambit... 1...e5!? quite useful in putting white off his/her stroke.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Nobody has mentioned that black looks only for equality. So, if for example black scores 50% in the Dutch he's doing very well, but if he scores 50% in the Bird, he isn't.
Most smart Bird players prefer to see the From, because it's really not good, especially the Lasker lines with ..g5. The only lines that are somewhat playable for Black are the ones with a really fast ..Nf6-g4. I love to hear people comparing White openings with their reversed Black counterparts. If the Bird is good because the Dutch is sound, then think ho ...[text shortened]... lians are compared to the English, which can get wild, but is generally slower and more solid.