Blackburne Hartlaub Gambit

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23 Aug '10 22:01

Black Star Uchess
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23 Aug '10 22:01
I quite like this for black...

1 d4 e5 2 dxe5 d6 3 exd6 Bxd6

I hate d4 d5 games, so hard to get even, this seems to gives black quite a few tactical chances especially when i get 2 rooks to the centre. Plus gives a cheap attack on the queen in blitz. Will post a few games when I have some worth it.

Any of you have some examples?

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greenpawn34
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23 Aug '10 22:302 edits
Hi

(you do realise you have just told 19,000 chess players
that you do not like playing against 1.d4)

Picked this up from the RHP database.

kristina90 - HangemHigh RHP 2007.

HangemHigh has played a few games with this defence/gambit/attack.

EVENT Open invite
SITE http://www.timeforchess.com
DATE 2007.02.19
ROUND ?
WHITE kristina90
BLACK HangemHigh
RESULT 0-1
WHITEELO 1655
BLACKELO 1461
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[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2007.02.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "kristina90"]
[Black "HangemHigh"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1655"]
[BlackElo "1461"]
[EndDate "2007.02.21"]
[WhiteRating "1655"]
[BlackRating "1461"]
[GameId "3194526"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 e5 3. dxe5 Nc6 4. exd6 Bxd6 5. Nf3 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bg4 7. h3 Bh5
8. Bg5 Ne5 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nxe5 Bxe2 11. Qxe2 Bxe5 12. c3 Qd6 13. O-O Rfe8
14. Nd2 Nd5
{Ah the cunning. If 15.exd5 then Bh2+ wins the Queen,}
15. Nc4 Qg6 16. Nxe5 Rxe5 17. Bh4 Rxe4 18. Qd3 Nf4
{Now that is what call you a Killer Diller. Hits the Queen and threatens mate on g2. The Queen now covers the mate, protects the h4 Bishop and offers a QueenSwap.}
19. Qg3 Ne2+
{The idea of getting the Queens off worked.Well half worked. The White Queen leaves the board, the Black Queen stays. 0-1}
Black Star Uchess
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23 Aug '10 23:312 edits
(I don't mind so much now I've found this 🙂 )

Thats nice, I've seen a lot of lines whith Qe7 and 0-0-0 are played setting up a discovered attack with the bishop... see the same attack there just a bit later 🙂

Looked at the Englund gambit but seems like a trap line you do or don't know...
d6 seems more sound
greenpawn34
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24 Aug '10 15:00
So you like the Blackburne Hartlaub Gambit

Then you will love the Hartlaub Blackburne Gambit

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1. e4 d5 2. exd5 e6 3. dxe6 Bxe6
greenpawn34
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26 Aug '10 19:38
🙂

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1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 d6 3. Nf3 {Now if 3...dxe5 White pulls off the Queens and captures back on e5 a safe pawn up.} 3... Bg4 {Black tempts White into the tempo losing 4.exd6 trying it to swing it back into the mainline.} 4. e4 {White is having none of that and develops.} 4.. Bxf3 {As White is not go to play along and fall behind in the big D, Black restores material equality.} 5. Qxf3 dxe5 6. Bc4 Nf6 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. Bg5 c6 9. Nc3 b5 10. Nxb5 cxb5 11.Bxb5+ Nbd7 12. O-O-O Rd8 13. Rxd7 Rxd7 14. Rd1 Qe6 15. Bxd7+ Nxd7 16. Qb8+ Nxb8 17. Rd8
Goshen
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26 Aug '10 19:511 edit
Can't resist that Morphy can you, Greenpawn?
michael liddle
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26 Aug '10 19:57
Hi GP. - That;s Morphy's 'opera' game, isn't it?
greenpawn34
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27 Aug '10 00:45
Yup.

Just showing what would have happened if Count Isouard
has tried this instead of the Philidor.

Count Isouard was French so it was most likely he who opted
for the Phildor. The Duke was a German.

Here is a morror image of the Morphy game from Edward Winter's
site with all the background info on the most famous game of chess in history.

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/morphy.html

Hodges – Daniels Nashville, December, 1886

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1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. f4 Nc6 4. fxe5 Nxe5 5. d4 Ng6 6. e5 Ng8 7. Bc4 Nxe5 8. Bb3 Ng6 9. Nf3 Nf6 10. O-O d6 11. Ng5 d5 12. Qe2+ Be7 13. Rxf6 gxf6 14.Nxd5 fxg5 15. Bxg5 Be6 16. Nxe7 Nxe7 17. d5 f6 18. Bxf6 Rf8 19. Qxe6 Qd6 20. Ba4+ Kd8 21. Re1 Rxf6 22. Qg8+ Nxg8 23. Re8
Black Star Uchess
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05 Sep '10 20:493 edits
Nice posts. Here is a crap game but it shows the first 8 moves i like in this line,
find people play similar to this...

[Event "uChess rated"]
[Site "www.uchess.com"]
[Date "2010.9.5"]
[Round "?"]
[White "priscilla"]
[Black "Black Star"]
[Result "0-1"]

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1. d2-d4 e7-e5 2. d4xe5 d7-d6 3. e5xd6 Bf8xd6 4. e2-e3 Nb8-c6 5. Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4 6. Bf1-e2 Qd8-e7 7. Nb1-d2 O-O-O 8. O-O Ng8-f6 9. h2-h3 h7-h5 10. h3-h4 Bg4xf3 11. Be2xf3 Nf6-g4 12. Bf3xg4 f7-f5 13. Bg4xh5 Qe7xh4 14. g2-g3 Bd6xg3 15. f2xg3 Qh4xg3 16. Kg1-h1 Rd8xd2 17. Qd1xd2 Rh8xh5 18. Qd2-h2 Rh5xh2

The benefits i see are... black avoids a d4,d5 game ..
-but also e4 is attacked.
-black has lots of opportunities to pin on the e and d files
-gets 2 tempo from bxd6 and white having to defend his queen after 0-0-0
( a pawn is worth 3? )

in that game i think 9...h5 was cheap and doesn't show what the opening does... but it was blitz.

Any of you have some games on this line.... what would you do to counter it?
erikido
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06 Sep '10 00:29
Originally posted by greenpawn34
🙂

[pgn]
1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 d6 3. Nf3 {Now if 3...dxe5 White pulls off the Queens and captures back on e5 a safe pawn up.} 3... Bg4 {Black tempts White into the tempo losing 4.exd6 trying it to swing it back into the mainline.} 4. e4 {White is having none of that and develops.} 4.. Bxf3 {As White is not go to play along and fall behind in the big D, Bl ...[text shortened]... 11.Bxb5+ Nbd7 12. O-O-O Rd8 13. Rxd7 Rxd7 14. Rd1 Qe6 15. Bxd7+ Nxd7 16. Qb8+ Nxb8 17. Rd8[/pgn]
I of course have seen that game...

But, without remembering that when I went into the thread I wondered what black would do after n-f3 or even e4 (although after thinking about it for a moment the e4 idea doesn't work out quite as well as I thought because after my idea of b-c4 or n-f3 then f6 was possible). At any rate after n-f3 I don't think black is getting what he is really looking for.
paulbuchmanfromfics
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11 Sep '10 15:471 edit
Black To Move

Here is how we got here
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1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.g3 Bg4 6.Bg2 Qd7 7.h3 Bf5 8.c3 Nf6 9.Be3 h5 10.h4 0-0-0 11.Qa4 Rhe8 12.Bxa7
Gatusso
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11 Sep '10 18:41
I am guessing Rxe2+ and it can't be taken because the queen is lost.
Shallow Blue
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11 Sep '10 19:11
Originally posted by Gatusso
I am guessing Rxe2+ and it can't be taken because the queen is lost.
Is it? I can only assume you mean Rxe2+ 13. Kxe2 Nd4+?... 14 Qxd4. There must be something more subtle than my eye can spot (which, to be honest, isn't unusual).

Richard
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11 Sep '10 19:271 edit
Originally posted by Shallow Blue
Is it? I can only assume you mean Rxe2+ 13. Kxe2 Nd4+?... 14 Qxd4. There must be something more subtle than my eye can spot (which, to be honest, isn't unusual).

Richard
Of course you are right, I was looking at Rxe2+ followed by Bd3+ just giving both my rook and bishop and getting a great attack but I can't make that line work.
randolph
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11 Sep '10 19:51
My line is 1.d4 e5 2.dxe d6 3.e4 Nc6 4. f4 and then just leave the pawn on e5- play nf3, 0-0 etc and have a development lead and a nice center. Don't know what it's called but works nicely.

EVENT	Open invite
SITE	http://www.timeforchess.com
DATE	2007.02.19
ROUND	?
WHITE	kristina90
BLACK	HangemHigh
RESULT	0-1
WHITEELO	1655
BLACKELO	1461

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Blackburne Hartlaub Gambit