Blackmar-Diemer gambit?

Wow. This is really loopy. I like it already :-)
Anyone have any thoughts? (Apart from "this is obviously bust, you must be insane," which I already know...)
1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3

The BDG is not quite sound,but it is fun to play! I suggest you look at Tom Purser's Blackmar-Diemer Page for a full overview of the Gambit. Exciting stuff!

1.d4 d5 2.e4 de 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 ef 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.h3 Bf3 7.Qf3 c6 and Black is simply better. Not a great line for White at all.

If you want something offbeat, 2.Bg5 is far more interesting, as well as sounder!

There is a guy at my chess club who has been playing this for years with eccellent results. He showed up at the club and got roped into playing a game (as the normal player had not shown up) with his clock 30 mins down and he won. He wasn't playing a patzer niether. This line should be considered like the dutch, perhaps fritz won't evaluate it as sound but in the right hands it's as good as any.

Well, I really like the idea in large part because it seems to make a good transposition from the scandinavian 🙂 1. e4 d5 2. d4 and we're right there. Nice to knock people who play that annoying thing for a loop.

Then again, I seem to do well against the scandinavian in the normal line.

It's generally believed to be unsound.Dunno why,black gets a pawn,white gets attacking chances,seems to me like any other gambit.
I think the general opinion is formed 'cause it isn't played at the higher levels.But one must not forget that there was a time that the sicilian wasn't seen on the higher levels 'cause the best players of those days thought it wasn't sound.Guess what happened next....😉

Sir Lot.

Three things:

1) I played against a guy in college (long ago) who played this as White and NEVER lost. He just crushed everyone with the thing (he was USCF 1900 at the time).

2) A friend of ours asked GM Lombardy about it and he smiled and said "I wouldn't mind if someone played it against me."

3) Spoil White's day and transpose into the French.

Originally posted by lloydk
Three things:

1) I played against a guy in college (long ago) who played this as White and NEVER lost. He just crushed everyone with the thing (he was USCF 1900 at the time).

2) A friend of ours asked GM Lombardy about it and he smiled and said "I wouldn't mind if someone played it against me."

3) Spoil White's day and transpose into the French.

1. d4 d5 2.c4! is much better as a 'gambit'

oh gawd, but the QG is so boring!

a lot of players over 2000 rating even play this gambit, got a bit of a cult following from a few people around the place.

here is some sites around the gambit to keep u occupied

http://blackmardiemergambit.idx.com.au/

http://www.geocities.com/~blackmar/bdg_world/shibut.html

http://www.belkaplan.de/chess/bdg/diemer/budzinski_ueber_bdg_und_huebsch-gambit_en.html

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/Blackmar_Diemer_Gambit_Keybook_II.htm

http://www.chesscity.com/PDF/BDG_Okelly.pdf

Originally posted by paultopia
oh gawd, but the QG is so boring!

Originally posted by hypermo2001
what else can you play as white when it's gone 1. d4 d5 ??

anything else is not as sound or is probably just as "boring"