blackmar diemer responses

I just wondered what people though the best resposes at club level were to stop/frustrate blackmar diemer gambit players getting their pet setup after pxf3 giving the open file for the rook.

Also white can transpose into it from 1.e4 which is annoying.

People can say that its 'unsound' etc but played by someone who knows it well I think its quite a tricky opening (especially in quick games) and black can find himself in big trouble if not careful.

Thanks.

Do you play the french?
1.d4 d5
2. e4 e6

or of course
1.d4 d5
2. e4 c6

guess you just need to decide what you want to play.

Try the Lemberger Counter Gambit

To see a good listing of your options against the BDG, you can visit a site like the Open Encyclopedia of Chess Openings. This site sometimes has computer output accompanying the variations.

As for specific variations to counter the BDG, the Fort Knox variation of the French Defense, Rubinstein Variation is solid and will take the wind out of a gambiteer's sails.

Or you can just accept the gambit and choose the solid Ziegler Defense to the Blackmar-Diemer. Alternatively, the Bogoljubow Defense is also solid if you prefer to fianchetto your king's bishop.

I hope this helps!

'elgallo' & I have explored the BDG recently, aided by elgallo's book by Scheerer, recently published and regarded as the latest word.

I think we took the view, in common with Scheerer, that Black accepts the gambit, and plays 5...c6, treating the opening as a Caro-Kann but a pawn up. Thereafter Black plays his B to f5 (best if available) or Bg4. White has it all to prove

Originally posted by Ragwort
Try the Lemberger Counter Gambit

[pgn] 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 e5 [/pgn]

Originally posted by Maxacre42
That's horrible lol, no offense

The best way to counter it is with a c6 system and White is a pawn down.

The Lagrange countergambit. 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 e5 is the best way to play against the blackmar diemer gambit.

Originally posted by Maxacre42
That's horrible lol, no offense

The best way to counter it is with a c6 system and White is a pawn down.

I'm also a BDG player and over the board I find I usually end up with a fairly even position and a lot more time on my clock after a dozen moves or so after 3. e5. Happy to play some training games if anyone wants to try out their anti-BDG systems.

Originally posted by plopzilla
I just wondered what people though the best resposes at club level were to stop/frustrate blackmar diemer gambit players getting their pet setup after pxf3 giving the open file for the rook.

Also white can transpose into it from 1.e4 which is annoying.

People can say that its 'unsound' etc but played by someone who knows it well I think its quite a t ...[text shortened]... specially in quick games) and black can find himself in big trouble if not careful.

Thanks.