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The following game from 1890 ended in a draw by repetition--continuous checks by the rooks. But, white has an extra pawn. Could he have done something with it?

  • 8
  • a
  • 7
  • b
  • 6
  • c
  • 5
  • d
  • 4
  • e
  • 3
  • f
  • 2
  • g
  • 1
  • h

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I do not know the solution, but for sure I would torture black here, instead of offering a draw...

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I remember reading somewhere that rook endings with an extra pawn tend to be drawn, yet they can be easily won with 2 rooks...

so with that in mind, lets not trade the rooks...


I would try: Rfc7+ Kd6 Rc5 R1g8 Rcb5 -- and now i dont think there is a way to prevent mate.

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
I remember reading somewhere that rook endings with an extra pawn tend to be drawn, yet they can be easily won with 2 rooks...

so with that in mind, lets not trade the rooks...


I would try: Rfc7+ Kd6 Rc5 R1g8 Rcb5 -- and now i dont think there is a way to prevent mate.
I think it is a bit deeper, you have to watchout for black e5 break though

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Originally posted by vipiu
I think it is a bit deeper, you have to watchout for black e5 break though
yep! --you posted that in the midst of me editing.....to solve problems though I often find it easier to play any old defence work out the threat, then find the better defence.



Edit: i light of the mate attack R1g8 must be inferior to the move e5

so...Rc5 e5 Rb6+ Kd7 [Ke7 Rc7+ Rd8 R6b7 exd5+ Kd2 1-0] Rxe6+ Kc8 Ree7

in both of these white ends with doubled rooks on the 7th with the king trapped on the 8th - if memory serves that should mate, or win a rook.

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
yep! --you posted that in the midst of me editing.....to solve problems though I often find it easier to play any old defence work out the threat, then find the better defence.



Edit: i light of the mate attack R1g8 must be inferior to the move e5

so...Rc5 e5 Rb6+ Kd7 [Ke7 Rc7+ Rd8 R6b7 exd5+ Kd2 1-0] Rxe6+ Kc8 Ree7

in both of these white end ...[text shortened]... on the 7th with the king trapped on the 8th - if memory serves that should mate, or win a rook.
Instead of e5 or Rgg8, Ra1 seems to keep the mate threats at bay. (Rbc7 Ra6)

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Instead of e5 or Rgg8, Ra1 seems to keep the mate threats at bay. (Rbc7 Ra6)
eh...here we go again 🙁


Rfc7+ Kd6 Rc5 Ra1 Rcc6 Rg6 now white wins a pawn.

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this game position is well known,a winning solution for white is as follows--------rbc7+ kingb5 kd2 rb1 rb7+ kc6 kc2 re1 rfc7+ kd6 rg7 rc8 kd2 rb1 f4! there are alternative black moves to each of the white moves above however each of them also lead to a white win, eventually![after the certainty of many many moves!]

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
The following game from 1890 ended in a draw by repetition--continuous checks by the rooks. But, white has an extra pawn. Could he have done something with it?

[fen]4r3/1R3R2/2k1p3/3p4/2pP4/2P5/1P2KP2/6r1 w - - 0 45[/fen]
I haven't looked at other replies but I reckon 1. Rb7-c7+ Kb6 2. Rc-e7 Rxe7 3. Rxe7 Rg6 4. f4 and the e5 push is blocked. White has much the better game and gets to march a pawn up the board.

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