Originally posted by ivan2908 Well, that is something total different than CC.
What do you guys play against 1. d4 (rather then d5 or Indian defence). I need something solid but not common so I can confuse my opponents a bit.
1...f5 leningrad dutch.
it's great because you can play it against almost anything, and mostly the move order doesn't matter. you absolutely need to understand the Bg5 lines though, or you'll lose games very quickly. but when you do, they're just nice free tempos for you.
In addition to the Dutch (1.d4 f5) and Albin listed above (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5):
Budapest 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5.
Czech Benoni 1.d4 c5 2.d5 e5
Modern 1.d4 g6
Then there's the Dzindzi-Indian 1.d4 g6 2.c4 Bg7 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 f5. This is similar to the Pterodactyl / Rat openings, where you play g6,Bg7,c5,Qa5 against just about every white setup.
If you're looking for unsound stuff, there's things like 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7?! 4.Bf4?! Qb4+
Originally posted by ivan2908 Well, that is something total different than CC.
What do you guys play against 1. d4 (rather then d5 or Indian defence). I need something solid but not common so I can confuse my opponents a bit.
Super-GM had great success for years with the Tchigorin Defense (1 d4 d5 2 c4 Nc6).
Another dynamic defense that Black can play against almost any opening move other than 1 e4 is the Tarrasch Defense: ...d5, ...e6, ...c5 in some order. Black often is saddled with an isolated d-pawn in the main lines, but as compensation he gets active piece play.
Originally posted by Adorea im becoming a slav fan. slav for d4 caro-cann for e4.
One of my favorite repertoire books is "Black Defensive System for the Rest of your Chess Career" by GM Andrew Soltis. In the book, he recommends both the Slav versus 1 d4 and the Caro-Kann versus 1 e4. Against other openings, he generally advocates systems in which black puts pawn on d5 and c6, just like in the Caro-Kann and the Slav.
Originally posted by wormwood 1...f5 leningrad dutch.
it's great because you can play it against almost anything, and mostly the move order doesn't matter. you absolutely need to understand the Bg5 lines though, or you'll lose games very quickly. but when you do, they're just nice free tempos for you.
I use this as well...but one that will really get em off guard is to play d6...then just go into whatever you want if they play c4...but if they play e4 then f5!
The balogh is a very fun and tactical defense and if you know it and they don't...which most people don't...you stand a great chance of winning quickly.
You can play 1...Nc6 against any first move by White. Raymond Keene and Byron Jacobs wrote a nice book called "A Complete Defense for Black" which has a ton of instruction and complete games starting with 1...Nc6.
Originally posted by gaychessplayer You can play 1...Nc6 against any first move by White. Raymond Keene and Byron Jacobs wrote a nice book called "A Complete Defense for Black" which has a ton of instruction and complete games starting with 1...Nc6.
another complete is 1 d3.... black can play 1...d6 in any opening, and therefore so can white.
i have my own little twist on the mieses that i've been running...really enjoy it as it throws out all possibility of playing against a large database. Also, i've had a few "marcozy bind" type positions with it, without having an annoying pawn swap from c5. 😀
Originally posted by gaychessplayer ... Raymond Keene and Byron Jacobs wrote a nice book called "A Complete Defense for Black" which has a ton of instruction and complete games starting with 1...Nc6.
It's not often you see "Ray Keene" and "nice book" together in the same sentence.
Originally posted by JonathanB of London It's not often you see "Ray Keene" and "nice book" together in the same sentence.
Yeah - I bought Raymondo's Complete Book of Gambits many years ago & recently found out that much of the text & analysis had been "borrowed" word-for-word by from other unacknowledged sources. There was a lawsuit & he had to pay damages.
He's called "The Penguin" in certain circles. I don't necessarily think that's just because he wears a tux.