17 Nov 08
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Is this position lost after whites 18th move? I'd like to pursue this position in future games.
Game 5582222
17 Nov 08
Originally posted by uzless[ gid ]5582222[ /gid ] -> Game 5582222
Is this position lost after whites 18th move? I'd like to pursue this position in future games.
[gameid]5582222[gameid/]
17 Nov 08
Originally posted by uzlessLost for which side?
Is this position lost after whites 18th move? I'd like to pursue this position in future games.
Game 5582222
Black's mistake was 19. ... Bd7. After 19. ... Bf6 instead, black was at least equal, I think. For instance: 20.Nh6 Bd3 21.Rc1 Rxb2 etc..
Perhaps white's safest continuation would have been (after 19. ... Bf6): 20.Nxh6+ Kxg7 21.Nf5+ and perpetual check with the queen on g4 and h5.
17 Nov 08
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Originally posted by Mephisto2After your 19 bf6, why wouldn't white just move 20. Qg4 instead of Nh6?
Lost for which side?
Black's mistake was 19. ... Bd7. After 19. ... Bf6 instead, black was at least equal, I think. For instance: 20.Nh6 Bd3 21.Rc1 Rxb2 etc..
Perhaps white's safest continuation would have been (after 19. ... Bf6): 20.Nxh6+ Kxg7 21.Nf5+ and perpetual check with the queen on g4 and h5.
I don't see a recovery from this position.
17 Nov 08
Originally posted by uzless19. ... Bf6 20.Qg4 then 20. ... Kh8 is in black's favour. He has several threats like Bxg7, Rg8 and Bd3.
After your 19 bf6, why wouldn't white just move 20. Qg4 instead of Nh6?
I don't see a recovery from this position.
ps. Note also that after 20. ... Kh8 21.Qh5 Bxg7 22.Nxh6 Bxh6 23.Qxh6+ Kg8, white has not check anymore, let alone perpetual.
18 Nov 08
Originally posted by DagamoStyleOf course, but black didn't make the mistake of playing 18. ... Bxf6. He played 18. ... Bb5 to prevent white from castling and to plan for Bd3. The idea was that after 19.Nhxg7 he could play 19. ... Bf6 (instead of Bd7 as in the game).
This is an unusual position. I think white has good posibilities, for example
18.... Bf6 19.Nxf6 Qxf6 20.Qxd5 and white is a pawn up. The pawns on c5 and e4 is hanging.