Castling Question

To be honest if I was playing a club match I'm not sure I call it (the touch the king first when castling rule)...having said that if were the difference between moving down division...who knows.

Originally posted by Fettzilla
But why?😠

because the game would be boring. Nobody would start an attack because nobody would castle. The instant you started attacking the uncastled King, he could run easily.

If you hate the rule so much set up your own site...you can play by any rules then 😛

Originally posted by Fettzilla
But why?😠

The idea is that you are not permitted to get your King killed. Castling is a trick where a very common set of moves were combined because everyone did the same moves anyway; it's like the way Pawns can move two but be captured en passant that way. If you made the moves individually (move King up, move Rook over, move King back down) then you'd be moving into Check which is not permitted. They could permit it I guess; it would simply be an automatic loss when the other side took your King!

Originally posted by Wulebgr
"The U.S. rule regarding castling is also far more sensible, according to [Steve] Immit. FIDE Laws describes the process of castling such that the king must be moved prior to the rook. Immit describes this as a rule that, 'serves no other purpose than to make disputes.' The USCF allows either piece to be touched first."

http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/news_7_127.php

Yeah, it makes more sense to me too to use the USCF rule - castling is a legal move involving the rook, so touching the rook should be ok.

If the USCF was trying to make the rules more kid-friendly, they never would have outlawed recording your move before you make it. That's how I learned to play the game, it'll be hard to get used to doing it the other way (even though the rule makes perfect sense) after all these years.

At RHP we use the FIDE rule. We move the king two squares and the rook will follow automaticly.
If you move your rook first you can't castle.

Same as OTB - when you move the king two squares anyone knows that this is a castling. If you move the rook two (or three) squares, no one knows for sure what the move is, if it is finished or if it will be followed by a king move.

FIDE rules.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
At RHP we use the FIDE rule. We move the king two squares and the rook will follow automaticly.
If you move your rook first you can't castle.

Same as OTB - when you move the king two squares anyone knows that this is a castling. If you move the rook two (or three) squares, no one knows for sure what the move is, if it is finished or if it will be followd by a rook move.

FIDE rules.

Makes perfect sense to me. Good explanation.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Same as OTB - when you move the king two squares anyone knows that this is a castling. If you move the rook two (or three) squares, no one knows for sure what the move is, if it is finished or if it will be followed by a king move.

Agreed. Under the American rules, what's to stop someone playing Rf8 and deciding, after releasing the rook, that it's a bad idea and castling instead?