This is a bit off topic, but I must post it because I LOVE sore losers.
Watch the video as Viktor Korchnoi LOSES (FIDE 2500) to Sofia Polgar (FIDE 2400) in a blitz game and then he comments, "You won it, you won it. It is the very first and the very last game you won against me in your life." And then he STORMS off. DANG I love watching sore losers.
On a darker note, this is WHY I became a cheater. I love to bully the bullies. Beat the unbeatable. Put people in their place. A dose of Humility is good for the soul, from time to time. If I were Polgar, as he DISRESPECTFULLY stormed off, I would have added some snide remark that would have pushed him over the edge so that the loss would have eaten him up for the rest of his life. TO lose to a girl, what an embarrassment.
As to my top 5 favorite players (so far):
1. Tal
2. Karpov
3. Kasparov
4. Fischer
5. Botvinnik
Honorable mention to Lasker, hey, let's give him a point. I'm also looking into Petrosian, haven't study enough games yet, so no point yet.
Updated poll:
Topalov 1
Capablanca 3
Tal 6
Alekhine 3
Waitzkin 1
Annand 1
Fischer 6
Kasparov 8
Tarrasch 1
Karpov 7
Kramnik 1
Bronstein 1
Botvinnik 1
Lasker 1
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Originally posted by wormwoodI think tal is an overestimated figure in chess only because of his appealing style, and kramnik is very much underestimated. He is my favorite player.
yeah, exactly. waitzkin was a promising young player, who never really delivered. not really anything special. compared to masters in general, he wasn't even mediocre. (I mean, you really have to be a GM to be an 'average master', unless you live in a country where circumstances prevent getting the title. living in new york hardly applies to that.) - al are obvious choices, in that order. there probably won't be many who'd argue with that.
my personal opinion on the top 3 (in chess strength) would be 1.Kasparov 2.Karpov 3.Kramnik.
and about waitzkin, I agree that in terms of chess strength, he has been overestimated because he was a US citizen, and of course because the movie gathered too much attention around him.
However, I don't agree that his pedagocial work cannot even touch that of dvoretsky's. I have watched hundreds of chess videos, I have gazed through hundreds (yes, hundreds) of chess books (including probably all books but one by dvoretsky), and although I agree that Dvoretsky has put in much more work in the area of "objective analysis", Waitzkin is by far the best chess annotator I have ever seen. The man not only changed my chess, he changed my life. I have to admit this evaluation is subjective though.
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Originally posted by cheater1I really dislike Korchnoi as well. I would expect such behavior from him.
This is a bit off topic, but I must post it because I LOVE sore losers.
Watch the video as Viktor Korchnoi LOSES (FIDE 2500) to Sofia Polgar (FIDE 2400) in a blitz game and then he comments, "You won it, you won it. It is the very first and the very last game you won against me in your life." And then he STORMS off. DANG I love watching sore losers.
...[text shortened]... ss would have eaten him up for the rest of his life. TO lose to a girl, what an embarrassment.
That would make him top 2 in the worst losers ranking:
1)Topalov 2)Korchnoi 3)Kasparov.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Steinitz
So we need a poll.
Anyone who posts from now on Copy Poll, add your choice and paste.
eg if you like Fischer, Tal, Karpov, Kasparov and Anand then
add one to their total, copy and paste.
If you want to add another, then add another,
eg: Botvinnik 1
[b]POLL of top players as chosen by RHP
Capablanca 1
Tal 3
Alekhi ...[text shortened]... 1
Annand 1
Fischer 3
Kasparov 3
Tarrasch 1
Karpov 1[/b]
Nimzo
S. Tartakower ( Because he belongs in this thread...)
Fischer
Kasparov
-GIN
Originally posted by greenpawn34My top five favorite writers:
Ah yes Tartakower.
Maybe we should do a poll on the top five writers about Chess.
Tartakower
Tarrasch
Reinfeld
Chernev
Euwe
That's an old school list, no doubt some of the young un's will
be adding up to date guys.
-Silman
-Tal
-Nimzowich
-Karpov
-Botvinnik
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Originally posted by greenpawn34I must have a list of 7, as I'm not sure how to organize them.
Ah yes Tartakower.
Maybe we should do a poll on the top five writers about Chess.
Tartakower
Tarrasch
Reinfeld
Chernev
Euwe
That's an old school list, no doubt some of the young un's will
be adding up to date guys.
*Players with (*) SHOULD NOT be forgotten..... Grrr...
Tartakower
Nimzo*
Steinitz*
Reti
Alekhine
CJS Purdy
and last but certainly not least, a pick which should fire up Greenpawn
a wee bit.
Hans Berliner
Originally posted by greenpawn34Personally, I would place
Hi Cheat,
If it appears that I follow you around from post to post it is
because I find you amusing and like to chip in every now and then.
I've lifted one of your better posts (tidied it up) and started a
new thread because I think you are making a few valid points
and it may have been missed by other's who I know would share an opinion.
** ...[text shortened]... d publishing
their secrets in an easy to understand manner.
We owe Tarrasch a great deal.
Gyula Breyer,
Aron Nimzovich,
Mikhail Botvinnik,
Vassily Smyslov, and
Rashid Nezhmetdinov
in my top five -- both for their chess ideas and for their playing excellence.
*
Originally posted by NowakowskiI'm trying to think why Hans Berliner would 'fire me up'
I must have a list of 7, as I'm not sure how to organize them.
*Players with (*) [b]SHOULD NOT be forgotten..... Grrr...
Tartakower
Nimzo*
Steinitz*
Reti
Alekhine
CJS Purdy
and last but certainly not least, a pick which should fire up Greenpawn
a wee bit.
Hans Berliner
[/b]
I don't have any books by him.
I've never played him.
I've only played over two of his games (studied).
v Fischer in 'Most Instructive' and v Estrin in Hardin's book.
Does he support Hearts?
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Originally posted by greenpawn34ah you must do a wee bit of research GP.
I'm trying to think why Hans Berliner would 'fire me up'
I don't have any books by him.
I've never played him.
I've only played over two of his games (studied).
v Fischer in 'Most Instructive' and v Estrin in Hardin's book.
Does he support Hearts?
Nobody can let you off so easy. Lets just say that Hans Berliner
has found the perfect opening. 1. d4 is a forced win for white. His
book "The System" shows how he uses this principia to help him
become CC World Champ, with the highest score of all time!
Definitely proves that d4 is the best possible opening move for
white. Furthermore he says chess is an equation, and Romantic
players are a perversion of the game. Even better, is his reallocation
of piece values. I think I hear your trowsers bundling up from here!
Is the fire rekindled a wee bit?
Little bit more study GP, then you'll be good and fired up 🙂
-GIN
Originally posted by greenpawn34How about Julius DuMont, author of 500 Master Games of Chess?
Ah yes Tartakower.
Maybe we should do a poll on the top five writers about Chess.
Tartakower
Tarrasch
Reinfeld
Chernev
Euwe
That's an old school list, no doubt some of the young un's will
be adding up to date guys.