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Originally posted by thaughbaer
Wrap your computer in chains and submerge upside down in water at a fixed depth.

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Originally posted by thaughbaer
Got time to do a similar analysis on his "awful" game ?
Maybe some other time.
The game above was quite short, but still took about 2 hours to analyse to a depth of 20 ply.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
After pulling off some fantastic wins v 2600 GMs (Ivanov is 2200) he was
reportebly strip searched and they found nothing.
A bit off-topic, but this caught my attention: does FIDE or tournament organizers even have the right to strip-search a player? That sounds wrong on many levels.


Originally posted by Zygalski
Maybe some other time.
The game above was quite short, but still took about 2 hours to analyse to a depth of 20 ply.
Just curious, why use a fixed depth? I'm not suggesting it's wrong but I don't see any benefit compared to e.g. 30 secs per move. The downside is that it's difficult to predict how long to analyse a whole game.

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Originally posted by danilop
A bit off-topic, but this caught my attention: does FIDE or tournament organizers even have the right to strip-search a player? That sounds wrong on many levels.
"After the eighth round there were suspicions that Ivanov had some electronic tools to help him and in my capacity of arbiter I decided to make a move in line with the FIDE rules."- Stanislav Maroja, the chairperson of the Zadar County Chess Federation


It's unclear whether the current FIDE regulations give an arbiter the right to search a player. The official Laws of Chess don't mention anything specific, so perhaps Maroja referred to the following paragraphs:

13.1
The arbiter shall see that the Laws of Chess are strictly observed.

13.2

The arbiter shall act in the best interest of the competition. He should ensure that a good playing environment is maintained and that the players are not disturbed. He shall supervise the progress of the competition.


http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/bulgarian-chess-player-strip-searched-after-suspection-of-cheating

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Originally posted by ChessPraxis
"After the eighth round there were suspicions that Ivanov had some electronic tools to help him and in my capacity of arbiter I decided to make a move in line with the FIDE rules."- Stanislav Maroja, the chairperson of the Zadar County Chess Federation
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http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/bulgarian-chess-player-strip-searched-after-suspection-of-cheating
Perhaps everyone should play naked to avoid this situation. I know I am. Why were there suspicions after the 8th round ? It appears as though he lost his round 8 game.

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Originally posted by gambit05
For me the first surprising move was 20 Rxa7. I would have played Nc7 (I didn't used the analysis board or any other assistance)..
20.Rxa7 or Nxa7 wins a pawn. What is so surprising about him wanting to win a pawn? If black is a grandmaster, he does not seem to be playing at his best.

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Originally posted by Zygalski
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1703505

[Event "19th Open A"]
[Site "Zadar"]
[Date "2012.12.17"]
[Round "3.12"]
[White "Borislav Ivanov"]
[Black "Bojan Kurajica"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E00"]
[WhiteElo "2227"]
[BlackElo "2565"]
[PlyCount "69"]
[Analysis "Houdini 1.5a x64 Hash:640 Time:N/A Fixed Depth:20ply"]

{ Book Moves: }

1. tead played the 2nd choice move with very little difference in score...
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 c5?

What book is this in?

4...c5 don't look good to me, because after 5. Bxb4 black must recapture away from the center resulting in double pawns. I do not see any advantage in that.

Even a patzer like me can see 4...Bxd2 is the best move and the only one I would consider.

How do you get all this analysis scores and percentages?

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Originally posted by ChessPraxis
You didn't happen to be at The Zadar Open did you?
No, of course not, numbnuts.

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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
Ah, so that is the engine you use. Funny, when i saw white play dxe5 i was immediately reminded of your 'game' against kingshill...
I don't see a dxe5 in this game. What game are you referring to?


This is like watching RJHinds walk into a helicopter blade in slow motion.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 c5?

What book is this in?

4...c5 don't look good to me, because after 5. Bxb4 black must recapture away from the center resulting in double pawns. I do not see any advantage in that.

Even a patzer like me can see 4...Bxd2 is the best move and the only one I would consider.

How do you get all this analysis scores and percentages?[/b]
I haven't checked any books or databases but c5 looks playable. It's probably an attempt to steer away from the books.

4. ...a5 is also a move. In fact, it was recommended in a repertoire book that I own, in a similar position (substitute Nf3 for g3). The open a file can come in useful.

Just because a move isn't popular doesn't mean it isn't playable.

When I was at ICC, I saw a Speelman game (at least I think it was Speelman) where he did something similar. It was a blitz game and went like this:



The GM just wanted a position where both sides had to think (and play chess), rather than dash out theory (memory).

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Originally posted by Zygalski
Maybe some other time.
The game above was quite short, but still took about 2 hours to analyse to a depth of 20 ply.
How do you do it?

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Originally posted by danilop
A bit off-topic, but this caught my attention: does FIDE or tournament organizers even have the right to strip-search a player? That sounds wrong on many levels.
Perhaps someone is just making this all up.


Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 c5?

What book is this in?

4...c5 don't look good to me, because after 5. Bxb4 black must recapture away from the center resulting in double pawns. I do not see any advantage in that.

Even a patzer like me can see 4...Bxd2 is the best move and the only one I would consider.

How do you get all this analysis scores and percentages?[/b]
You don't see any advantage in that because your computer tells you it is .4 centipawns worse than 4...Bxd2. Loser.

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