Sometimes you execute a bold sacrifice that you think will win the game for you in a move or two. Yet, your opponent has a different idea. Case in point is this game where white sacrifices its white bishop on 16 h7 anticipating the black king to move to h8 and then, an easy a mate in two…alas, the black king has a different idea.
Originally posted by dubnikovaAfter 16....,Kh8 how do you mate in 2?
Sometimes you execute a bold sacrifice that you think will win the game for you in a move or two. Yet, your opponent has a different idea. Case in point is this game where white sacrifices its white bishop on 16 h7 anticipating the black king to move to h8 and then, an easy a mate in two…alas, the black king has a different idea.
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[Event "Open ...[text shortened]... . Rd1c1 Rc8c4 38. Kg1g2 d5 39. Kg2f3 Nf5xd4 40. Kf3e3 Nd4b5 0-1 [/pgn]
In fact,I don't see a forced mate at all.
Originally posted by Romanticusif he was so lucky that his opponent would have made the move Kh8 he then had Qh5+ followed by Qh7#
After 16....,Kh8 how do you mate in 2?
In fact,I don't see a forced mate at all.
I believe after looking at real quick that even Kg8 after you played Ng5+ would have prevented mate after
18. Qh5 Re8 19. Qh7+ Kf8 20. Qh8+ Ng8
or
white could have compensated for the lost bishop with 2 pawns and a weakened black kingside after
18. Qh5 Re8 19. Qxf7+ Kh8 20. Qh5+ Kg8 21. Qh7+ Kf8 22. Qh8+ Ng8
Originally posted by tmstwrt88The original poster was playing Black. Anyway, I agree, with discovered checks it's normal to look at all the "free moves" the moving piece can make. Maybe the White player doesn't appreciate the potential a discovered check can carry.
sorry but a 1500 player should see a discovered check like that. I actually thought that was your whole point behind Qg4 until I clicked the next button and your knight jumped back to e4.
Originally posted by tmstwrt88Lucky?Hm,think I'd prefer 16...,Kh8 over 16....,Kxh7.
if he was so lucky that his opponent would have made the move Kh8 he then had Qh5+ followed by Qh7#
I believe after looking at real quick that even Kg8 after you played Ng5+ would have prevented mate after
18. Qh5 Re8 19. Qh7+ Kf8 20. Qh8+ Ng8
or
white could have compensated for the lost bishop with 2 pawns and a weakened black kingside after
18. Qh5 Re8 19. Qxf7+ Kh8 20. Qh5+ Kg8 21. Qh7+ Kf8 22. Qh8+ Ng8
Mate in two?After 16....,Kh8 the white queen cannot reach h5 because of the knight on f3,even if it could it wouldn't be with check because of the bishop on h7 which has not been captured.
I don't see a forced mate in that line.Not that it's a problem because white didn't lose a piece but won a pawn.
Originally posted by Romanticusohhh i just reread the original post. he wasn't anticipating black to take the bishop therefore after Kh8 instead of Kxh7 there are is not a mate in 2. i was thinking after move 16. my bad.
Lucky?Hm,think I'd prefer 16...,Kh8 over 16....,Kxh7.
Mate in two?After 16....,Kh8 the white queen cannot reach h5 because of the knight on f3,even if it could it wouldn't be with check because of the bishop on h7 which has not been captured.
I don't see a forced mate in that line.Not that it's a problem because white didn't lose a piece but won a pawn.