chess notations

i'm having trouble with notations in chess books
it goes like this:
11.Q-R5, R-K1
and i can't find a way to "translate" to the notations i'm used to... like Qe4, Nc6 and so on...
does anybody know how and where to learn this?

Originally posted by drekec
i'm having trouble with notations in chess books
it goes like this:
11.Q-R5, R-K1
and i can't find a way to "translate" to the notations i'm used to... like Qe4, Nc6 and so on...
does anybody know how and where to learn this?

OK, we know that you're not a chess old timer. 🙂

This link should help with the older Descriptive Notation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_chess_notation

Originally posted by drekec
i'm having trouble with notations in chess books
it goes like this:
11.Q-R5, R-K1
and i can't find a way to "translate" to the notations i'm used to... like Qe4, Nc6 and so on...
does anybody know how and where to learn this?

Ye Olde English notation.

Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_chess_notation

Sorry: Cross posted with Mad Rook. I should've gone to typing school.

omg, this is disaster 🙂
so, Q-R5 is what? i still don't understand
it should be Q-QR5 or Q-KR5 so i know which 5 is it Q or K...
or am i missing something?

You will usually see Q-R5 when the queen can only move to one of the rook 5s. If there is any ambiguity, then you need to specify which rook 5 you mean.

Just like in algebraic notation, you can happily say R-e5. However if you have more than one rook that can move there, for instance one on a5 and the other on h5, then you need to say either rhe5 or rae5

Phil.

ok, thanks guys, thanks alot

if i have more questions, don't hesitate to answer 😉

Originally posted by drekec
omg, this is disaster 🙂
so, Q-R5 is what? i still don't understand
it should be Q-QR5 or Q-KR5 so i know which 5 is it Q or K...
or am i missing something?

Remember there are four R5’s. White’s Q&K R5 (Black’s Q&K R4) and Black’s Q&K R5 (White’s Q&K R4). Anyway unless the Q can go to both squares (i.e. QR5 or KR5 for either White or Black) it’s not necessary to specify. If the Q could reach both then you’d have to write Q-KR5 or Q-QR5.

Check out www.exeterchessclub.org.uk/descript.html
You'll get a chart that translates the old descriptive to algebraic.

Also, note that you can use a program like Chessbd to convert notation from the old descriptive to algebraic (or vice-versa).

1. Create a PGN file with moves in this format: 1.P-Q4 N-KB3 2.P-QB4 P-KN3 3.N-QB3 B-N2 4.P-K4 P-Q3 5.P-KN3 O-O.

2. Open file in ChessBD and save as a new PGN. The format will now be in modern algebraic assuming that the .ini file is changed as below (outnotation=2)

The ChessBD .ini file can be modified for input/output: outnotation (default: 0)
outnotation=1 enables output in English descriptive.
outnotation=2 enables output in algebraic.
outnotation=0 enables output in same form as input.
innotation (default: 3)
innotation=1 enables input in English descriptive.
innotation=2 enables input in algebraic.
innotation=3 enables input in either.

Hope this helps.