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  1. 11 Sep '06 02:16
    I use to use this Db when I was playing on here and every once it awhile it would be down for a couple of days. But it's been over a week since it's been down or possible more.

    I haven't played in several months so I haven't check it until recently. What's going on with it? I can't even find a contact number or e-mail to ask about it. It dampens my spirit of starting up again since i won't have a decent db to use.

    Is there any other great free databases online similar to this one? Not chesslab, you can't trust the games on there. They let anyone submit games.
  2. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    11 Sep '06 02:33
    New in Chess is better than ChessBase if you're looking for quality, rather than quantity: http://www.newinchess.com/NICBase/.

    Also for 50 pounds per year, you can have online access to all Chess Informants: http://www.sahovski.com/cic/register.php
  3. 11 Sep '06 02:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    New in Chess is better than ChessBase if you're looking for quality, rather than quantity: http://www.newinchess.com/NICBase/.

    Also for 50 pounds per year, you can have online access to all Chess Informants: http://www.sahovski.com/cic/register.php
    I tried that NicBase but you need info to search. Players names, etc...

    For CC that's not good. Can't go throught all the players names. Can't you search for all the games without putting any criteria?

    Enter the position and hit search?
  4. 11 Sep '06 04:41
    Originally posted by RahimK
    I tried that NicBase but you need info to search. Players names, etc...

    For CC that's not good. Can't go throught all the players names. Can't you search for all the games without putting any criteria?

    Enter the position and hit search?
    I know that chessmaster database is not so good, but that is what I use, have you tried it, it allows to find positions just as you say.
  5. 11 Sep '06 07:44
    What about www.shredderchess.com?
  6. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    11 Sep '06 14:02
    Originally posted by RahimK
    I tried that NicBase but you need info to search. Players names, etc...

    For CC that's not good. Can't go throught all the players names. Can't you search for all the games without putting any criteria?

    Enter the position and hit search?
    I use it to search positions and explore ideas in openings. It does not have games representing every variation because it collects only high quality games.
  7. 11 Sep '06 15:23
    Originally posted by Superman
    I know that chessmaster database is not so good, but that is what I use, have you tried it, it allows to find positions just as you say.
    Yes, I don't like it though. Fritz has a better Db program but the games are limited.
  8. 11 Sep '06 15:24
    Originally posted by basso
    What about www.shredderchess.com?
    They don't have a games db. Just openings and endgames one.
  9. 11 Sep '06 15:25
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    I use it to search positions and explore ideas in openings. It does not have games representing every variation because it collects only high quality games.
    How do you get it to search the position?

    It requires a names of players doesn't it?
  10. 11 Sep '06 16:02
    If you have access to the games you want you could use something like Scid to load them. I use ChessGames (http://www.chessgames.com), and if you subscribe they give you all the games in PGN format. I can then load that into Scid to search by position, player, etc. It also gives statistical information on the current position if you choose.

    I'm guessing this probably doesn't help you as you're looking for something online, but it could be a free solution if you have access to the games in question.
  11. 11 Sep '06 16:24
    Originally posted by Chesswick
    If you have access to the games you want you could use something like Scid to load them. I use ChessGames (http://www.chessgames.com), and if you subscribe they give you all the games in PGN format. I can then load that into Scid to search by position, player, etc. It also gives statistical information on the current position if you choose.

    I'm gue ...[text shortened]... omething online, but it could be a free solution if you have access to the games in question.
    I have fritz 8 to use for searching. I need the games though. Fritz 8 has a mere thousands of games from 2002 and before. I liked chessbase db because it was free, online and updated the games every week or so.

    I wish it would work again.
  12. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    11 Sep '06 18:03
    Originally posted by RahimK
    How do you get it to search the position?

    It requires a names of players doesn't it?
    It took me a while to learn to use it.

    Try this:

    Make some moves on the board, then click the key symbol under the board. Now, you should have an opening key in the window to the right of the board. Expand the key (click on the + symbol), then choose one of the moves listed. It should bring up a list of games.

    After the moves 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4, it shows KG 3.5 (the NIC classification code for those moves). Click on this line, and it displays 56 white wins, 54 black wins, and 31 draws. Expand the key and we see several choices. 3...d6 brings up 27 games. The most recent:

    [Event "Budapest open"]
    [Site ""]
    [Date "2006.??.??"]
    [Round "8"]
    [White "Dzubasz, Tino"]
    [Black "Mihok, Oliver"]
    [Result "1/2-1/2"]
    [WhiteElo "2085"]
    [BlackElo "2166"]
    [NIC "KG 3.5.2"]
    [ECO "C33"]
    [PlyCount "106"]

    1. f4 e5 2. e4 exf4 3. Bc4 d6 4. Nc3 Qh4 5. Kf1 Bg4 6. Nf3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 Nc6 8. Nd5
    O-O-O 9. Qxf4 Qxf4 10. Nxf4 Be7 11. d3 Ne5 12. Bb3 Nf6 13. Bd2 Rhf8 14. Re1 Rde8
    15. Ke2 Bd8 16. Kd1 c6 17. Rhf1 Bb6 18. h3 Kd7 19. g4 h6 20. Ng2 h5 21. g5 Nh7 22.
    h4 f6 23. gxf6 Rxf6 24. Rxf6 Nxf6 25. Ne3 Nf3 26. Rf1 Nxd2 27. Kxd2 Bxe3 28. Kxe3
    d5 29. Rf4 dxe4 30. dxe4 Kd6 31. Kf3 Re5 32. Bf7 Rb5 33. b3 Ra5 34. b4 Ra3 35. Bb3
    a5 36. Rf5 a4 37. e5 Kd7 38. exf6 axb3 39. axb3 gxf6 40. Rxh5 Ra2 41. Rh7 Ke6 42.
    Rxb7 Rxc2 43. b5 cxb5 44. Rxb5 Kf7 45. h5 Kg7 46. Ke4 Kh6 47. b4 Rb2 48. Kd3 f5 49.
    Kc3 Rf2 50. Rc5 Kxh5 51. b5 Rf1 52. b6 Rb1 53. Rxf5 Kg6 1/2-1/2
  13. 11 Sep '06 18:17
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    It took me a while to learn to use it.

    Try this:

    Make some moves on the board, then click the key symbol under the board. Now, you should have an opening key in the window to the right of the board. Expand the key (click on the + symbol), then choose one of the moves listed. It should bring up a list of games.

    After the moves 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 ...[text shortened]... 5 49.
    Kc3 Rf2 50. Rc5 Kxh5 51. b5 Rf1 52. b6 Rb1 53. Rxf5 Kg6 1/2-1/2
    Not very user friendly but it works.

    Any others? Even if any of you know a place where you can download chess games so I can use the fritz db for searching and stuff.

    Thanks.
  14. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    11 Sep '06 21:39
    Originally posted by RahimK
    Not very user friendly but it works.

    Any others? Even if any of you know a place where you can download chess games so I can use the fritz db for searching and stuff.

    Thanks.
    I go to The Week in Chess every Monday for the latest GM/IM games. http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/twic.html

    There are more games than you could possibly use at Logical Chess http://www.logicalchess.com/resources/openings/pgndb/index.html. Each ECO classification is a separate database, so its less user friendly (and there is a lot of junk)
  15. 11 Sep '06 21:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    I go to The Week in Chess every Monday for the latest GM/IM games. http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/twic.html

    There are more games than you could possibly use at Logical Chess http://www.logicalchess.com/resources/openings/pgndb/index.html. Each ECO classification is a separate database, so its less user friendly (and there is a lot of junk)
    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    I read the stuff at logical chess before when I was learning but I can't really trust the games though. I don't know where they came from and what years, if it's update etc...

    I like setting a limit of at least 1800 for the side i'm playing to filter all the bad games out but you never know where they got those games from. That's also why I don't use chesslab.