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Is there a difference with regard to rating points you get?

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uhh

Draw is Draw losers.

no

NEXT...

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A simple 'no' would have sufficed, but thanks anyway.

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sorry. I was trying to be cool like Bowmann

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no wuckin forries - mind you, bowmann is a hard act to emulate!

The only reason I asked my admittedly dumb question was that 'claim draw' makes it sound like one is in a slightly more advantageous position ... that and the fact that there two options.

Oh well! 🙂

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There is a difference between those two options though.. just not for ratings..
claim means you are saying the game is a draw based upon the rules of chess.. you select that, and the system will confirm.. If you select this, and the system confirms it really should be a draw, the game is a draw regardless of what your opponent feels or thinks.
Offer draw, means you are offering the opponent a draw... regardless of position of the board. The opponent has the option to accept or decline this option.

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what happens if you claim a draw on your checkmating move?

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Originally posted by winning machine
what happens if you claim a draw on your checkmating move?
Try it and let us know how it worked out. 😏

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Originally posted by winning machine
what happens if you claim a draw on your checkmating move?
The system will register that it is not a draw, and the checkmate will stand.

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Originally posted by MIODude
There is a difference between those two options though.. just not for ratings..
claim means you are saying the game is a draw based upon the rules of chess.. you select that, and the system will confirm.. If you select this, and the system confirms it really should be a draw, the game is a draw regardless of what your opponent feels or thinks.
Offer draw ...[text shortened]... rdless of position of the board. The opponent has the option to accept or decline this option.
Ah - so the claim (if accepted by the system) is decided without your opponent having any say?

If so, how good is the system, do you know? I imagine it must take relative position strength into account as well ...

Thanks for clearing that up, MIODude.

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Originally posted by Paul Dirac
Try it and let us know how it worked out. 😏
I've offered a draw on a checkmating move before, I always try it wherever I play chess, but the checkmate always stands.

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Originally posted by treetalk
Ah - so the claim (if accepted by the system) is decided without your opponent having any say?

If so, how good is the system, do you know? I imagine it must take relative position strength into account as well ...

Thanks for clearing that up, MIODude.

There are only five ways for a game to end in a draw and both players not agree on the drawn position.

1. Perpetual Check. An infinite number of checks and re-checks that makes it so that the king is unable to escape. The system probably doesn't recognize this, because this will almost always lead into the second draw.

2. I call it the 3'rd copy rule. If the board has the exact same position of ALL pieces three times during a game, a draw can be called.

3. Stalemate. This is where a player has no moves that don't lead into check. The system automatically confirms this when it is present, and the claim draw button does not need to be used.

4. 50 moves without a piece capture.

5. insufficiant material to checkmate.

The last way of a draw is by mutual consensus. This is the most common.

-Fatty

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Originally posted by treetalk
Ah - so the claim (if accepted by the system) is decided without your opponent having any say?

If so, how good is the system, do you know? I imagine it must take relative position strength into account as well ...

Thanks for clearing that up, MIODude.

there are certain conditions that must be met for a draw to be claimed:
1. 50 moves have been made by each player since the last piece capture/pawn move
2. insufficient material to checkmate
3. 3-fold repetition of position.

Only one of these positions must be met in order to claim a draw.

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