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MilkyJoe

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Would you claim the win against one of the top players, or somebody significantly higher rated than you, even if they told you beforehand that they would be away for a while?

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Originally posted by MilkyJoe
Would you claim the win against one of the top players, or somebody significantly higher rated than you, even if they told you beforehand that they would be away for a while?
Most top players are subscribers, they have 30 days more timebank. It is impossible to time them out

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Personally speaking, if they told me they would be away, I wouldn't take the timeout.

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Originally posted by Thomaster
Most top players are subscribers, they have 30 days more timebank. It is impossible to time them out
What if they were away for more than 30 days (+ normal timebank)? And what about the ones who aren't subscribers? It may be unlikely, but not impossible.
Would you do it for the points, or honour their request?

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Originally posted by MilkyJoe
What if they were away for more than 30 days (+ normal timebank)? And what about the ones who aren't subscribers? It may be unlikely, but not impossible.
Would you do it for the points, or honour their request?
First, you will probably end up losing the points soon after anyway. Second, they probably will never play you again if you time them out. Lastly, it is a great learning opportunity and you will throw it away by timing them out without finishing the game.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
First, you will probably end up losing the points soon after anyway. Second, they probably will never play you again if you time them out. Lastly, it is a great learning opportunity and you will throw it away by timing them out without finishing the game.
What if you learnt all you could from the game and were about to lose? Also, I rarely play the same player twice anyway. You could take the points and run.

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I would value improving my chess over improving my rating. If you feel you have learn't all you can, that is a point I cannot argue.

What I would say is that personally, I would like my rating to reflect my chess playing ability, & not my timeout ability.

That said, I suppose it is up to you. The rating increase will just go back down after a while anyway, seeing as the timeout didn't actually improve your chess.

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Originally posted by KingoftheRink
I would value improving my chess over improving my rating. If you feel you have learn't all you can, that is a point I cannot argue.

What I would say is that personally, I would like my rating to reflect my chess playing ability, & not my timeout ability.

That said, I suppose it is up to you. The rating increase will just go back down after a while anyway, seeing as the timeout didn't actually improve your chess.
Timeout wins are there and are taken. Your rating would be unaffected in the long run, but it would be a nice boost.
But you wouldn't have lost that many points anyway so would it be worth it?

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Originally posted by MilkyJoe
Would you claim the win against one of the top players, or somebody significantly higher rated than you, even if they told you beforehand that they would be away for a while?
I usually do not claim timeouts (I claimed only once in the very beginning to see what happens if I click on the skull 😉 )

If my opponent informs me beforehand, I would NEVER claim a timeout.

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As a non sub, I will always take timeouts because I value playing more than waiting as someone is gone for weeks.

So, yes.

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Originally posted by tamuzi
As a non sub, I will always take timeouts because I value playing more than waiting as someone is gone for weeks.

So, yes.
Yeah, I hate it when nobody moves so you can't play chess. I'm not very good and I always forget what I was planning when I return to a game (not that my plans were very good in the first place).

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To me, timing is part of the game. If you don't move within your time, you've lost as much as if you were checkmated. I never feel bad about clicking the skull (though I've only done it twice).

Still, if someone told me beforehand that s/he needed to take x days off, I'd honor that request unless it got to be so long that it was ridiculous.

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Originally posted by MilkyJoe
Would you claim the win against one of the top players, or somebody significantly higher rated than you, even if they told you beforehand that they would be away for a while?
Click the skull with no second thoughts. Anyone highly rated player knows the time controls and knows to abide by them or run the risk of getting timed out. If they really need the time, they can set the vacation flag.

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Originally posted by MilkyJoe
Would you claim the win against one of the top players, or somebody significantly higher rated than you, even if they told you beforehand that they would be away for a while?
Game 4252120

Ooops. I meant to click resign but hit the skull instead.

N.B. Robert Angler was 2299, and probably going further, before he died.

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why feel guilty when your opponent isn't losing? If you arranged that they would be away for a while after 30 days I would easily take the skull. They obviously wont take it too personal or shouldn't take it too personal if they were doing other business than taking care of their games for an extended period of time. Free points why not?

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