I have notcied that players of almost all levels making errors like
a. hanging on to gambit pawns(especially by black in QGA)
b. Reckless pawn moves.
c. Not castling (early)
d. Early queen sorties.
e. queen grabbing QKt pawn and many more
I request players to respond on above and other errors they have noticed and punished or got punished.
Links to games will be of great help to all of us.
Thanks.
Originally posted by PereiraUsually,I decline,or quickly try to return gambit pawns,but I have tried to hang on to the pawn in the QGA,and I actually think that's not an error.Maybe not the best line,but perfectly playable,IMO.
I have notcied that players of almost all levels making errors like
a. hanging on to gambit pawns(especially by black in QGA)
b. Reckless pawn moves.
c. Not castling (early)
d. Early queen sorties.
e. queen grabbing QKt pawn and many more
I request players to respond on above and other errors they have noticed and punished or got punished.
Links to games will be of great help to all of us.
Thanks.
For the rest,guilty on all charges,except point d 😞
Originally posted by PereiraI am guilty of b.
I have notcied that players of almost all levels making errors like
a. hanging on to gambit pawns(especially by black in QGA)
b. Reckless pawn moves.
c. Not castling (early)
d. Early queen sorties.
e. queen grabbing QKt pawn and many more
I request players to respond on above and other errors they have noticed and punished or got punished.
Links to games will be of great help to all of us.
Thanks.
But I don't believe not castling early is a mistake. I think one should castle at the right time not castle early as a rule.
Originally posted by SirLoseALotWell the thing is when I play the white side of the QGA i see people try to hold it as follows:
Usually,I decline,or quickly try to return gambit pawns,but I have tried to hang on to the pawn in the QGA,and I actually think that's not an error.Maybe not the best line,but perfectly playable,IMO.
For the rest,guilty on all charges,except point d 😞
d4 d5
c4 dxc4
e3 b5?
a4 c6??
axb5 cxb5
Qf3 +-
Of course you can't play a6 instead of c6 as after axb5 axb5 Rxa8.
This trap seems to get played quite a lot against me. Makes for a boring game I think.
I've seen people try to hold the pawn differently and sometimes it works against me but against perfect play I think it would fail or at least result in a bad position.
Originally posted by SirLoseALotI seem to remember Michael Adams beating Kazim-thingy (the really young GM, 12 or 13 year old) in the Fide WC by taking and keeping the Gambit. If you need a reason to take it i suggest you look it up 😉
Usually,I decline,or quickly try to return gambit pawns,but I have tried to hang on to the pawn in the QGA,and I actually think that's not an error.Maybe not the best line,but perfectly playable,IMO.
For the rest,guilty on all charges,except point d 😞
Originally posted by marinakatombRustam Kasimdzhanov has not played a Queen's Pawn game against Adams. All their games in the WC were Sicilian or Ruy Lopez according to Chessgames.
I seem to remember Michael Adams beating Kazim-thingy (the really young GM, 12 or 13 year old) in the Fide WC by taking and keeping the Gambit. If you need a reason to take it i suggest you look it up 😉
He also isn't 12 or 13. The really young GM you may be referring to (or confusing with) is Sergey Karjakin. However he has not played Adams, according to chessgames once again.
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Originally posted by XanthosNZYeah,that's a nice trap.When white plays 3.e3,I don't think black can keep the extra pawn,instead 3....,e5 is called for,attempting to create an isolated white d-pawn.Anyway,I don't remember much about the QGA,it never really caught on with me.Here's a game to show what I was talking about.It was played in a timed simul.I believe I tried it here,on rhp,as well,but can't do a search on openings,and I don't fancy wading through all my games to find it.
Well the thing is when I play the white side of the QGA i see people try to hold it as follows:
d4 d5
c4 dxc4
e3 b5?
a4 c6??
axb5 cxb5
Qf3 +-
Of course you can't play a6 instead of c6 as after axb5 axb5 Rx ...[text shortened]... t play I think it would fail or at least result in a bad position.
[Event "ICC 35 35 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2003.08.06"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Schroer"]
[Black "SLAL"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
[WhiteElo "2708"]
[BlackElo "1886"]
[Opening "QGA: Alekhine defense, Borisenko-Furman variation"]
[ECO "D21"]
[NIC "QG.05"]
[Time "20:12:00"]
[TimeControl "2100+35"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 a6 4. e4 b5 5. a4 Bb7 6. axb5 axb5 7. Rxa8
Bxa8
8. b3 e6 9. bxc4 Bxe4 10. cxb5 Bb4+ 11. Bd2 Bxf3 12. Qxf3 Bxd2+ 13. Nxd2
Qxd4 14. Qa8 Qd8 15. Be2 Nf6 16. Nf3 O-O 17. O-O Qd5
{Game drawn by mutual agreement}
1/2-1/2
Of course playing e5 works (also playable are Nf6, e6 and c5) after e3 then Bxc4 exd4 exd4 and isolated d pawn for white. The isolated pawn is a common occurance in QG games. Of course I've played people who played the correct e5 then played Nf6 instead of exd4.
Some openings have more traps than others. How about we take the Qb6 sicilian.
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Qb6 5.Nc3 Bc5 6.Na4 [6.Be3 Qxb2] 6...Qa5+ 7.c3 Bxd4 8.Qxd4 Nf6 [8...Nc6 9.Qxg7] 9.Nc5 Nc6 10.Qe3
Of course those are just a sample of the more common mistakes people make and the positions the openings leads to with queen's in the open board is ripe for more.
Originally posted by XanthosNZActually, the issolated d-pawn is not necissarily a weakness. In certain pawn formations (when black has a pawn on e6 for example) the d-pawn can be a powerful weapon through the d4-d5 break. Black is not garunteed to have the capacity to take the initiative through this 'weakness'.
Of course playing e5 works (also playable are Nf6, e6 and c5) after e3 then Bxc4 exd4 exd4 and isolated d pawn for white. The isolated pawn is a common occurance in QG games. Of course I've played people who played the correct e5 then played Nf6 instead of exd4.
Some openings have more traps than others. How about we take the Qb6 sicilian.
1.e4 c5 2. ...[text shortened]... e make and the positions the openings leads to with queen's in the open board is ripe for more.
Originally posted by gumbieYes, I agree. Often, if you automatically castle early, you might castle yourself into trouble. If possible, you should leave open the possibility of castling to either side, so your opponent doesn't necessarily know where your King will be for the rest of the game, and therefore you might make it more difficult to plan an attack on your King.
I am guilty of b.
But I don't believe not castling early is a mistake. I think one should castle at the right time not castle early as a rule.
Originally posted by PereiraI've committed e a couple of times, with pretty dire consequences. I didn't realise that it was an opening cardinal sin.
I have notcied that players of almost all levels making errors like
a. hanging on to gambit pawns(especially by black in QGA)
b. Reckless pawn moves.
c. Not castling (early)
d. Early queen sorties.
e. queen grabbing QKt pawn and many more
I request players to respond on above and other errors they have noticed and punished or got punished.
Links to games will be of great help to all of us.
Thanks.
Can anybody point me to some further reading on the theory behind it?
Cheers,
D