25 Oct '07 12:35>
Looking for an easy quick game against a 1200 player I foolishly thought the first few moves were weak enough to allow me some early tactics so I jumped in with my knight to see what I could make of it...and before I could fully formulate all the sage advice I would happily share after my victory the game turned around. Within a few moves their position looked really solid and I was a shambles struggling to find useful moves. I hung on just to check they had the endgame to finish me off and they did.
Game 4173602
Next I thought I'd run the game through my Sigma engine giving it 2 mins per move to see what I could learn...already recognising that the early "weak" moves could be a tactic to pull people of their databases. I was playing quickly but then so was my opponent.
Anyway what I can't understand is how few of my own (ultimately losing) moves are offered improvements by the engine and how many of my opponents moves get suggestions for improvements. I would expect it to be the other way round. I've run this a couple of times to be sure it's not just skipping my moves but the result is the same.
Any suggestions.
This is what spewed out of Sigma - I have the black pieces - notice how the improvements in curly brackets so often follow whites moves:
1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 e6 3. a3 { +0.22 3. Nf3 d5 4. Be2 c5 5. O-O Nbd7 6. Nbd2 c4 }
Be7 4. h3 Ne4 5. Bd3 d5 6. Qg4 { +0.35 6. Bxe4 dxe4 7. Qg4 O-O 8. Qxe4 Bd7 9.
Qf4 a5 10. Nf3 Ba4 } g6 { +0.03 6... h5 7. Qd1 b6 8. c4 c5 9. Bxe4 dxe4 10. Nc3
} 7. Bxe4 f5 8. Bxf5 exf5 9. Qd1 { +0.68 9. Qf3 O-O 10. Nd2 c6 11. Ne2 a5 12.
O-O b6 } Na6 10. Nf3 { +1.12 10. Nd2 Qd6 11. b3 Be6 12. Ngf3 O-O 13. Ne5 c5 14.
Bb2 } c5 11. c3 { +1.09 11. Nc3 Be6 12. dxc5 Nxc5 13. O-O Ne4 14. Nxe4 dxe4 15.
Qxd8 Rxd8 16. Nd4 } cxd4 12. cxd4 { +1.29 12. exd4 O-O 13. b3 f4 14. O-O Bd7
15. Ne5 } Qd6 13. Bd2 { +1.22 13. Ne5 O-O 14. O-O Be6 15. b4 Rfe8 16. b5 Nc7
17. Nc3 } Bd7 14. Qb3 { +1.37 14. Ne5 O-O 15. Nxd7 Qxd7 16. Nc3 Rac8 17. Qf3
Nc7 18. O-O } Qc7 15. Nc3 { +2.13 15. Qxd5 Bc6 16. Qb3 O-O-O 17. O-O Kb8 18.
Rc1 b5 } Be6 16. Rc1 Qb6 17. Qxb6 axb6 18. O-O { +2.02 18. Ne2 b5 19. Ne5 g5
20. O-O O-O 21. Ba5 Rac8 } O-O 19. Na4 { +1.93 19. Ne5 Rfe8 20. Nb5 Rab8 21. b3
Kh8 22. f3 Rbc8 23. Rxc8 Rxc8 } b5 20. Nc3 { +1.72 20. Nc5 Nxc5 21. dxc5 Bf6
22. Nd4 Bd7 23. Bb4 Be5 } Nc7 21. Ne2 Ne8 22. Nf4 Ng7 23. Rc7 Bd6 24. Rxb7 {
+5.33 24. Rxg7 Kxg7 25. Nxe6 Kg8 26. Nxf8 Rxf8 27. Rc1 Rb8 28. Ne5 Re8 29. Bb4
Bxb4 30. axb4 } Rab8 25. Rxb8 { +6.10 25. Rxg7 Kxg7 26. Nxe6 Kg8 27. Nxf8 Rxf8
28. Rc1 Rb8 29. Rc6 Be7 30. Rc7 Bd6 31. Rd7 } Rxb8 26. Nxe6 { +2.69 26. Ne5 Rc8
27. Rc1 Rxc1 28. Bxc1 g5 29. Nxe6 Nxe6 30. Bd2 f4 31. g3 } Nxe6 27. Rc1 Rb6 28.
Bc3 { +2.52 28. Ne5 Kg7 29. Nd7 Rb7 30. Nc5 Re7 31. Bb4 Ng5 32. Nd3 Ne4 33.
Bxd6 Nxd6 } Kf7 29. Nd2 { +2.48 29. Ne5 Ke8 30. Ba5 Rb8 31. Rc6 Ke7 32. Rb6
Rxb6 33. Bxb6 Kf6 } b4 30. axb4 { +2.58 30. Bxb4 Bxb4 31. axb4 Rxb4 32. b3 Rb8
33. g3 Ra8 34. Nf3 Kg8 35. h4 } Bxb4 31. Bxb4 Rxb4 32. b3 Kf6 33. Ra1 { +2.25
33. Rc6 h5 34. Nb1 Ke7 35. Nc3 Kd7 36. Nxd5 Rxd4 37. exd4 Kxc6 38. Ne7 Kd6 39.
Nxg6 Nxd4 } Rb5 34. Ra4 { +2.31 34. Ra7 h5 35. f4 Rb6 36. Rd7 Rb5 37. g3 Ra5 }
Nd8 35. Ra6+ { +2.43 35. g4 Ne6 36. gxf5 Kxf5 37. Ra7 h6 38. Rf7 Kg5 39. f4 Kh5
40. Re7 } Ne6 36. g4 { +2.31 36. Ra7 h5 37. f4 Rb6 38. Rd7 Rb5 39. g3 Ra5 }
fxg4 37. hxg4 h6 38. f4 { +2.77 38. f3 Rb8 39. Ra5 Nc7 40. Kf2 Rb7 41. e4 } Ke7
39. f5 gxf5 40. gxf5 Ng5 41. Kg2 { +3.48 41. Rxh6 Kf7 42. f6 Ne4 43. Nxe4 dxe4
44. b4 Rxb4 45. d5 Rb1 46. Kg2 Rb2 47. Kg3 } Ne4 42. Nxe4 dxe4 43. Rxh6 { +3.13
43. Re6 Kf7 44. Rxe4 Rxf5 45. Rf4 Rxf4 46. exf4 h5 47. b4 Ke6 48. b5 Kd5 49. b6
} Rxb3 44. Re6+ Kf7 45. Rxe4 Kf6 46. Re5 Rd3 47. Kf3 Rd1 48. Ke4 Rh1 49. Re6+
Kf7 50. Ke5 Rh5 51. e4 { +5.62 51. Rb6 Ke8 52. d5 Kd7 53. d6 Kc8 54. e4 Rh2 55.
f6 } Rh8 52. d5 Re8 53. Rxe8 *
Game 4173602
Next I thought I'd run the game through my Sigma engine giving it 2 mins per move to see what I could learn...already recognising that the early "weak" moves could be a tactic to pull people of their databases. I was playing quickly but then so was my opponent.
Anyway what I can't understand is how few of my own (ultimately losing) moves are offered improvements by the engine and how many of my opponents moves get suggestions for improvements. I would expect it to be the other way round. I've run this a couple of times to be sure it's not just skipping my moves but the result is the same.
Any suggestions.
This is what spewed out of Sigma - I have the black pieces - notice how the improvements in curly brackets so often follow whites moves:
1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 e6 3. a3 { +0.22 3. Nf3 d5 4. Be2 c5 5. O-O Nbd7 6. Nbd2 c4 }
Be7 4. h3 Ne4 5. Bd3 d5 6. Qg4 { +0.35 6. Bxe4 dxe4 7. Qg4 O-O 8. Qxe4 Bd7 9.
Qf4 a5 10. Nf3 Ba4 } g6 { +0.03 6... h5 7. Qd1 b6 8. c4 c5 9. Bxe4 dxe4 10. Nc3
} 7. Bxe4 f5 8. Bxf5 exf5 9. Qd1 { +0.68 9. Qf3 O-O 10. Nd2 c6 11. Ne2 a5 12.
O-O b6 } Na6 10. Nf3 { +1.12 10. Nd2 Qd6 11. b3 Be6 12. Ngf3 O-O 13. Ne5 c5 14.
Bb2 } c5 11. c3 { +1.09 11. Nc3 Be6 12. dxc5 Nxc5 13. O-O Ne4 14. Nxe4 dxe4 15.
Qxd8 Rxd8 16. Nd4 } cxd4 12. cxd4 { +1.29 12. exd4 O-O 13. b3 f4 14. O-O Bd7
15. Ne5 } Qd6 13. Bd2 { +1.22 13. Ne5 O-O 14. O-O Be6 15. b4 Rfe8 16. b5 Nc7
17. Nc3 } Bd7 14. Qb3 { +1.37 14. Ne5 O-O 15. Nxd7 Qxd7 16. Nc3 Rac8 17. Qf3
Nc7 18. O-O } Qc7 15. Nc3 { +2.13 15. Qxd5 Bc6 16. Qb3 O-O-O 17. O-O Kb8 18.
Rc1 b5 } Be6 16. Rc1 Qb6 17. Qxb6 axb6 18. O-O { +2.02 18. Ne2 b5 19. Ne5 g5
20. O-O O-O 21. Ba5 Rac8 } O-O 19. Na4 { +1.93 19. Ne5 Rfe8 20. Nb5 Rab8 21. b3
Kh8 22. f3 Rbc8 23. Rxc8 Rxc8 } b5 20. Nc3 { +1.72 20. Nc5 Nxc5 21. dxc5 Bf6
22. Nd4 Bd7 23. Bb4 Be5 } Nc7 21. Ne2 Ne8 22. Nf4 Ng7 23. Rc7 Bd6 24. Rxb7 {
+5.33 24. Rxg7 Kxg7 25. Nxe6 Kg8 26. Nxf8 Rxf8 27. Rc1 Rb8 28. Ne5 Re8 29. Bb4
Bxb4 30. axb4 } Rab8 25. Rxb8 { +6.10 25. Rxg7 Kxg7 26. Nxe6 Kg8 27. Nxf8 Rxf8
28. Rc1 Rb8 29. Rc6 Be7 30. Rc7 Bd6 31. Rd7 } Rxb8 26. Nxe6 { +2.69 26. Ne5 Rc8
27. Rc1 Rxc1 28. Bxc1 g5 29. Nxe6 Nxe6 30. Bd2 f4 31. g3 } Nxe6 27. Rc1 Rb6 28.
Bc3 { +2.52 28. Ne5 Kg7 29. Nd7 Rb7 30. Nc5 Re7 31. Bb4 Ng5 32. Nd3 Ne4 33.
Bxd6 Nxd6 } Kf7 29. Nd2 { +2.48 29. Ne5 Ke8 30. Ba5 Rb8 31. Rc6 Ke7 32. Rb6
Rxb6 33. Bxb6 Kf6 } b4 30. axb4 { +2.58 30. Bxb4 Bxb4 31. axb4 Rxb4 32. b3 Rb8
33. g3 Ra8 34. Nf3 Kg8 35. h4 } Bxb4 31. Bxb4 Rxb4 32. b3 Kf6 33. Ra1 { +2.25
33. Rc6 h5 34. Nb1 Ke7 35. Nc3 Kd7 36. Nxd5 Rxd4 37. exd4 Kxc6 38. Ne7 Kd6 39.
Nxg6 Nxd4 } Rb5 34. Ra4 { +2.31 34. Ra7 h5 35. f4 Rb6 36. Rd7 Rb5 37. g3 Ra5 }
Nd8 35. Ra6+ { +2.43 35. g4 Ne6 36. gxf5 Kxf5 37. Ra7 h6 38. Rf7 Kg5 39. f4 Kh5
40. Re7 } Ne6 36. g4 { +2.31 36. Ra7 h5 37. f4 Rb6 38. Rd7 Rb5 39. g3 Ra5 }
fxg4 37. hxg4 h6 38. f4 { +2.77 38. f3 Rb8 39. Ra5 Nc7 40. Kf2 Rb7 41. e4 } Ke7
39. f5 gxf5 40. gxf5 Ng5 41. Kg2 { +3.48 41. Rxh6 Kf7 42. f6 Ne4 43. Nxe4 dxe4
44. b4 Rxb4 45. d5 Rb1 46. Kg2 Rb2 47. Kg3 } Ne4 42. Nxe4 dxe4 43. Rxh6 { +3.13
43. Re6 Kf7 44. Rxe4 Rxf5 45. Rf4 Rxf4 46. exf4 h5 47. b4 Ke6 48. b5 Kd5 49. b6
} Rxb3 44. Re6+ Kf7 45. Rxe4 Kf6 46. Re5 Rd3 47. Kf3 Rd1 48. Ke4 Rh1 49. Re6+
Kf7 50. Ke5 Rh5 51. e4 { +5.62 51. Rb6 Ke8 52. d5 Kd7 53. d6 Kc8 54. e4 Rh2 55.
f6 } Rh8 52. d5 Re8 53. Rxe8 *