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02 Nov '09 06:33

National Master Dale
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02 Nov '09 06:33

...Nf2+ Rxf2 Qxf2 Be3 help where can my queen go
Mephisto2
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02 Nov '09 10:32
Is that from a Dragon with 6.f4 ?
National Master Dale
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02 Nov '09 10:35
I don`t know i just made up the position since its a good trap to be aware of since it can happen semi often.
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02 Nov '09 10:46
I was thinking 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.f4 Nc6 7.Nf3 Bg7 8.Bc4 (instead of the more common Bd3) 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Bb3 Qb6+ 11.Kh1 Ng4 12.Nd5!

But I guess there are other variations that may lead tothe same trap
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02 Nov '09 10:51
you get similar position in the Kings Indian Four Pawn Attack.
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02 Nov '09 13:00
That is real sneaky, I know i would just go straight for philidor's mate as black.
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03 Nov '09 03:18
Mathmo notice that philidors mate fails since when black gets around to playing ...Qg1+ white doesnt have to play Rxg1 but can play Nxf1 instead.
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03 Nov '09 03:52
Originally posted by National Master Dale
Mathmo notice that philidors mate fails since when black gets around to playing ...Qg1+ white doesnt have to play Rxg1 but can play Nxf1 instead.
I did that once (move 12 onwards), strangely I ended up with the smothered mate anyway.

EVENT Censorinus Grouped Random
SITE http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com
DATE 2006.07.19
ROUND 1
WHITE andy m
BLACK DeepThought
RESULT 0-1
WHITEELO 1243
BLACKELO 1924
Invert Board PGN Headers
[Event "Censorinus Grouped Random"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2006.07.19"]
[EndDate "2006.07.24"]
[Round "1"]
[White "andy m"]
[Black "DeepThought"]
[WhiteRating "1243"]
[BlackRating "1924"]
[WhiteELO "1243"]
[BlackELO "1924"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "2285033"]

1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Qd1xd4 Nb8c6 4. Qd4c3 e5 5. Bf1c4 Bf8b4 6. Qc3xb4 Nc6xb4
7. Bc4b3 Ng8f6 8. f3 d5 9. Ng1e2 O-O 10. O-O dxe4 11. fxe4 Nf6xe4
12. Nb1a3 Qd8b6 13. Kg1h1 Ne4f2 14. Kh1g1 Nf2h3 15. Kg1h1 Qb6g1 16. Ne2xg1 Nh3xg1
17. Rf1xg1 Bc8e6 18. Bb3xe6 fxe6 19. Bc1d2 Nb4d5 20. c4 Nd5b6 21. c5 Nb6d5
22. Na3c4 e4 23. Ra1e1 Nd5f6 24. a4 e3 25. Re1xe3 Nf6g4 26. Re3xe6 Ng4f2 0-1
mathmo
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03 Nov '09 12:41
Originally posted by National Master Dale
Mathmo notice that philidors mate fails since when black gets around to playing ...Qg1+ white doesnt have to play Rxg1 but can play Nxf1 instead.
Thanks for pointing that out, i missed it completely. Just goes to show that its easy to get tunnel vision and ignore other considerations when you think you recognise a nice combination. Yep, im pretty sure that would have got me in a game.

EVENT	Censorinus Grouped Random
SITE	http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com
DATE	2006.07.19
ROUND	1
WHITE	andy m
BLACK	DeepThought
RESULT	0-1
WHITEELO	1243
BLACKELO	1924

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