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Originally posted by MCAActually Its + (# is mate)
Is it just me being stupid and missing something or is that not really easy??😕
Nxf6# leading to Qh7##??
Variation 1
Nxf6 + , Qxf6
Bxh7+ , Kh8
Bg6#
Im not sure what to do when gxf6 as I don't have the image here... I'll edit in a second.
Edit.. forgot about our other night so variation 1 is inneficient and it looks like there is no forced mate after gxf6. Rxf6 is the same as Qxf6, just follow up with Qxh7+ and Qh8#..
Originally posted by zebanoGod, pay attention people. Look at the queen sacrifice on h7. The black king gets drawn out into the board and get's mated easily.
Actually Its + (# is mate)
Variation 1
Nxf6 + , Qxf6
Bxh7+ , Kh8
Bg6#
Im not sure what to do when gxf6 as I don't have the image here... I'll edit in a second.
Edit.. forgot about our other night so variation 1 is inneficient and it looks like there is no forced mate after gxf6. Rxf6 is the same as Qxf6, just follow up with Qxh7+ and Qh8#..
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldGS, no one is listening to you.
God, pay attention people. Look at the queen sacrifice on h7. The black king gets drawn out into the board and get's mated easily.
The solution given in the book lists a mate in eight beginning with Qxh7+, and ending with O-O-O#, but there are several closely related variations. A few minutes ago Crafty 19.19 informed me of a mate in seven.
Keeping all these variations in my head took some effort as bedtime reading, but six months ago I got there. Now, however, the memory gets fuzzy again.
Originally posted by WulebgrLol. Glad I was right. It's a very cool puzzle, with a great queen sac. The O-O-O makes sense, I didn't see that cause I though I spotted mate before that but I saw that the king gets drawn out into the middle of the board with a lot of pieces on it so mate would be close no matter what I would think. I saw mate on g3 I think.
GS, no one is listening to you.
The solution given in the book lists a mate in eight beginning with Qxh7+, and ending with O-O-O#, but there are several closely related variations. A few minutes ago Crafty 19.19 informed me of a mate in seven.
Keeping all these variations in my head took some effort as bedtime reading, but six months ago I got there. Now, however, the memory gets fuzzy again.
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldIf I recall accurately, the line ending in O-O-O# is elegant, but not the most efficient mate.
Lol. Glad I was right. It's a very cool puzzle, with a great queen sac. The O-O-O makes sense, I didn't see that cause I though I spotted mate before that but I saw that the king gets drawn out into the middle of the board with a lot of pieces on it so mate would be close no matter what I would think. I saw mate on g3 I think.
I found the puzzle in Chess Traveller's Quiz Book by Julian Hodgson. He gives the game as Edward Lasker - Thomas 1912, but my database from ChessBase has the date as 1921. The game also appears in the Lasker chess training CD from ChessBase, where it is presented as an example of something often incorrectly attributed to Emanuel Lasker.
Originally posted by WulebgrMy sources for this game give the year 1912. Looks like the chessbase guys made a typo. (switched the "2" and "1" around in the year)
If I recall accurately, the line ending in O-O-O# is elegant, but not the most efficient mate.
I found the puzzle in Chess Traveller's Quiz Book by Julian Hodgson. He gives the game as Edward Lasker - Thomas 1912, but my database from ChessBase has the date as 1921. The game also appears in the Lasker chess training CD from ChessBase, where it is presented as an example of something often incorrectly attributed to Emanuel Lasker.
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldSorry about that. I'll make sure to take more time out of work to analyze chess puzzles. =)
God, pay attention people. Look at the queen sacrifice on h7. The black king gets drawn out into the board and get's mated easily.
I'm giving myself partial credit for realizing that my method didn't work.
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldYes. I saw part of the solution the first time I saw the puzzle, but missed some of black's possible defenses. My instict told me that black's king could probably become trapped afther the queen sacrifice. Working out all the key variations after looking at the solution, and even keeping all of the main line in my memory took many nights of concentration.
No worries, it's a tricky puzzle.
That's why I threw this problem into this thread. It is a good one for practicing such analysis. It makes a tremendous differnce which knight moves to g4, but it took me a long time to keep it straight even after I knew the answer.