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  1. 19 Jan '08 05:21
    On the following KID lines (From the white perspective):

    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Kh1


    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Be3

    I've played 9.Kh1!? a few times, and it creates some interesting games, but I haven't been able to find any material (at all) on it. 9.Be3 is a move I discovered tonight, which I think may have some merit to it.
  2. Standard member chessisvanity
    THE BISHOP GOD
    19 Jan '08 05:40
    who me? nope.
  3. 19 Jan '08 05:55
    Originally posted by chessisvanity
    who me? nope.
    Way to contribute to the thread. (I know I'm not either.)
  4. 19 Jan '08 05:59
    Originally posted by eertognam
    Way to contribute to the thread. (I know I'm not either.)
    I don't suspect that many people will be able to, these don't seem like very well known lines.
  5. 19 Jan '08 06:35
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    On the following KID lines (From the white perspective):

    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Kh1


    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Be3

    I've played 9.Kh1!? a few times, and it creates some interesting games, but I haven't been able to find any mate ...[text shortened]... at all) on it. 9.Be3 is a move I discovered tonight, which I think may have some merit to it.
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  6. 19 Jan '08 15:22
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    On the following KID lines (From the white perspective):

    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Kh1


    1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2
    e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Be3

    I've played 9.Kh1!? a few times, and it creates some interesting games, but I haven't been able to find any mate ...[text shortened]... at all) on it. 9.Be3 is a move I discovered tonight, which I think may have some merit to it.
    I'm on travel at the moment, so I don't have access to any of my literature on the KID. Therefore, the following is from memory. I have never seen 9. Kh1 and the only potential value of the move that I see is an eventual Ng1 and that hardly looks promising. All in all, 9. Kh1 looks like it just wastes a tempo. Of course, if you are aware of a GM vs. GM game where White played this, I'll reconsider my opinion.

    9. Be3 is probably playable, with a possible transposition to 9. Ne1 lines. Against 9. Be3, Black is encouraged to play Nd7 (or Ne8) followed by f7-f5-f4 and White is probably best off meeting this with 10. Ne1 (or Nd2), 11. f3 and retreating Bf2 when confronted with f4.

    My recollection is that the main move 9 options are Ne1 or Nd2 or Bd2 or b4 and they all have their GM adherents. Incidentally, I know you didn't ask about this, but given your previous posts about your style of play, I think you would be happier playing the 4 Pawns Attack vs. the KID rather than the Classical Variation.
  7. 19 Jan '08 21:07
    Originally posted by AlboMalapropFoozer
    I'm on travel at the moment, so I don't have access to any of my literature on the KID. Therefore, the following is from memory. I have never seen 9. Kh1 and the only potential value of the move that I see is an eventual Ng1 and that hardly looks promising. All in all, 9. Kh1 looks like it just wastes a tempo. Of course, if you are aware of a GM v ...[text shortened]... would be happier playing the 4 Pawns Attack vs. the KID rather than the Classical Variation.
    Yeah, I know GMs who have played 9.Kh1. One who immediately comes to mind is a certain young and promising one named Carlsen.

    Yeah, I'm still considering the Samisch and 4 Pawns.
  8. 20 Jan '08 06:24
    Originally posted by greengiant101
    Chess Openings On Demand:

    http://chesskingsindiandefenseelectronicbook.blogspot.com/

    Just so one doesn't go without
    Very nice reference - thank you!
  9. 22 Jan '08 15:51 / 1 edit
    I retract my previous statement regarding the dubious value of 9. Kh1.
    Today, I have the use of a computer which does not restrict me from effectively using certain websites such as chesslive.de. I looked up the position after 9. Kh1 on that site and found that it has been played many times and repeatedly by GMs Larsen and Miles. So, if you are still interested in investigating the move further, one way to do that would be to play go to that site and play over the games played by those players (and any other GMs who have played the line as White).