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Does anyone ever beat you?

Does anyone ever beat you?

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Does anyone ever beat you? Or do you believe that all of your losses are a result of your bad play? In other words, do you beat yourself?

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Originally posted by Eladar
Does anyone ever beat you? Or do you believe that all of your losses are a result of your bad play? In other words, do you beat yourself?
why does it have to be one or the other?

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It is the cooperation between winner & loser that makes the game interesting 😉

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Philidor,

Usually people view it one way or the other. I beat a guy and I told him why I think I beat him and he replied that I didn't beat him, he defeated himself. I many times I have the same attitude. I was just wondering if others have the same point of view.


heinzkat,

There doesn't have to be a winner or loser. Sometimes there's a tie that resulted from an interesting game.

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OK, the paradoxical cooperation between the "arch rivals" is an aspect that makes the game quite interesting.

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sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.



and all drawn games are lost.

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Error and mistake make you lose the game, and your opponent is not to blame for these things.

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Originally posted by wormwood
sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.



and all drawn games are lost.
If all drawn games are lost, then why don't ties and losses result in the same rating point loss?

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You should ignore what players say after you have beaten them.

Sometimes people do and say very strange things after a loss.

When I lose it is because I am the last player to make a blunder.

When I win it is because my opponent was the last to make a blunder.

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I know what you mean greenpawn. Sometimes I'm not in the best of moods when I lose either. Tired, losing, and frustrated usually isn't a good combination.

I simply found the statement interesting because I often have the same point of view.

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Originally posted by Eladar
If all drawn games are lost, then why don't ties and losses result in the same rating point loss?
who cares about rating points. on the amateur level a win always exists, and if you couldn't find it there's only one guy to blame.

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I view it as my opponent being smart enough to see what I did wrong and capitalizing on it. It takes two to lose, haha.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I know what you mean greenpawn. Sometimes I'm not in the best of moods when I lose either. Tired, losing, and frustrated usually isn't a good combination.

I simply found the statement interesting because I often have the same point of view.
Then you are a poor sport. I have looked at games which should have been won where the blunder lies in the inability to exploit the weaknesses created by opponent. That's not losing because you beat yourself. Even if you blunder into a loss by necessity your opponent needs to be able to exploit your blunder. The only "beat yourself" losses are where players resign from a winning position. Being the one with the next to the last blunder still requires an opponent who knows how to finish you off. Games can be rescued even from massive blunders. Some blunder going in for the kill. Do you ever get the sense your opponent is out of ideas when even when you do blunder they do not seem to know what to do and make a non-sensical quiet move?

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Then you are a poor sport.

In general, I do hate to lose. I guess that makes me a poor sport.

But then again, it also gives me a desire to get better. So I guess there is something good about being a poor sport.

Gen Patton was a bad sport, as were some of the best chess players in the world.

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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
Then you are a poor sport. I have looked at games which should have been won where the blunder lies in the inability to exploit the weaknesses created by opponent. That's not losing because you beat yourself. Even if you blunder into a loss by necessity your opponent needs to be able to exploit your blunder. The only "beat yourself" losses are where pla ...[text shortened]... n when you do blunder they do not seem to know what to do and make a non-sensical quiet move?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It does take two to lose 😛