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OK, I'm no expert, but it strikes me that lots of top class (and not so top class) games are drawn because it seems like an easy way to score half a point. Surely if they were played to the "death", most of them would result in a win for one side or the other, cos someone would make a mistake, which is chess, after all. It seems a bit of a cop-out to offer/accept a draw on, say, move 25, which is what happens loads of times. What's the benefit of it?

Is there a place for tournaments where draws are NOT allowed?

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Originally posted by Lagavulin
OK, I'm no expert, but it strikes me that lots of top class (and not so top class) games are drawn because it seems like an easy way to score half a point. Surely if they were played to the "death", most of them would result in a win for one side or the other, cos someone would make a mistake, which is chess, after all. It seems a bit of a cop-out to off ...[text shortened]... s the benefit of it?

Is there a place for tournaments where draws are NOT allowed?

Lag
You cannot have a tournament where draws are not allowed.

What happens when an obviously drawn ending occurs, for example?

What about perpetual check, the 50 move rule of perpetual check?

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No, you can allow the regulated draws like stalemate, 3xpos, perpetual, but just not allow agreed draws

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Originally posted by Lagavulin
No, you can allow the regulated draws like stalemate, 3xpos, perpetual, but just not allow agreed draws
So, they agree on playing 3xpos. Or they agree to blitz out the last moves and no mather what happens the one will stalemate the other. I agree on your point of view. I just think that it cannot be prevented

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Originally posted by Lagavulin
No, you can allow the regulated draws like stalemate, 3xpos, perpetual, but just not allow agreed draws
They already do that in the Sofia tournament - players cannot agree a draw before a cerftain number of moves.

However, there are many well-known perpetual checks or repititions in various openings. Any players who didn't fancy playing could simply play one of these.

You then have to decide what to do about drawn endings - can the players agree a draw then?

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Originally posted by Redmike
However, there are many well-known perpetual checks or repititions in various openings. Any players who didn't fancy playing could simply play one of these.

You then have to decide what to do about drawn endings - can the players agree a draw then?
Yes, you have to allow this, I guess, but don't you feel that we might be able to do something about the number of draws that happen?

I appreciate that it can be a huge achievement to eke out a draw from a lost position, and that it adds a different dimension to the game - the whole idea of offering/accepting draws takes practice and intution...

But REALLY, honestly, don't you think that chess would be more interesting if you just weren't allowed to agree a draw? Think about it for a minute before you say "No"!

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Originally posted by Lagavulin

But REALLY, honestly, don't you think that chess would be more interesting if you just weren't allowed to agree a draw? Think about it for a minute before you say "No"!
I've thought about it.

No.

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