1. Standard memberTraveling Again
    I'm 1/4 Ninja
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    28 Jan '10 19:11
    Originally posted by meanmicro
    yes thats the one ,and it means technically they have a bye in the first round .
    now if we all did that the second round would become the first, if you are not going to play fairly in a torny why bother at all???
    Yes, it looks like poor sportsmanship to me.
  2. Joined
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    28 Jan '10 19:20
    In chess you're looking for a way to at least not lose

    If your opponent is generous enough to give you that draw immediately, why not take it
  3. Joined
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    28 Jan '10 19:44
    After e4 c6, it's a forced draw.
  4. New Braunfels, Texas
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    28 Jan '10 21:33
    In an OTB tourney, the director could require them to continue to play, yes?
  5. Standard memberorion25
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    28 Jan '10 22:24
    Originally posted by Maxacre42
    After e4 c6, it's a forced draw.
    has 1.e4 been busted?
  6. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    28 Jan '10 22:27
    Originally posted by meanmicro
    is it not wrong for 2 players to agree a draw in both games in a torny after only 1 move?????
    Of course it's wrong. Everyone knows you're supposed to play 12-15 lackluster moves and only then agree to the draw.
  7. New Braunfels, Texas
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    28 Jan '10 23:19
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    ...you're supposed to play 12-15 lackluster moves and only then agree to the draw.
    My exact strategy for most of my games. But when I offer the draw at that point, my opponents laugh and point out I'm a knight and pawn down. 😳 :'(
  8. e4
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    28 Jan '10 23:23
    I recall a thread about this on here ages ago.

    Two players (2nd and 3rd graded) in a big tourney took a quick draw to
    save themselves.

    Anyone remenber it, I wonder how they got on?
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    28 Jan '10 23:31
    Originally posted by MontyMoose
    My exact strategy for most of my games. But when I offer the draw at that point, my opponents laugh and point out I'm a knight and pawn down. 😳 :'(
    🙂
  10. home
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    29 Jan '10 07:01
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I recall a thread about this on here ages ago.

    Two players (2nd and 3rd graded) in a big tourney took a quick draw to
    save themselves.

    Anyone remenber it, I wonder how they got on?
    Thread 103409, page 2 ff.
    Tournament 5854, group 13.

    both went through
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    29 Jan '10 08:16
    I agree, its unsportsmanlike. We have a precedent in real life: Miles vs Reuben

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Miles

    "Once, in the last round of a tournament (Luton, UK, 1975), with Miles needing a draw for first place, and his opponent, Stewart Reuben wanting a draw for a high placing, he agreed a draw without playing any moves. The arbiter decided to give both players no points for this non-game; the players claimed this "game" had been played often, when players pre-arranged a draw - this was the only time it had been scored correctly, rather than playing out some anodyne non-moves. This sparked a hefty amount of correspondence in British chess journals."


    However, its not uncommon in real life since there are no black and white pieces. Just grey outcomes
  12. USA
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    30 Jan '10 17:43
    I've only had one pre-arranged draw, when my opponent and I moved our knights in and out, thus repeating the starting position three times. In another tournament, my opponent (who was rated 400 points higher than me) offered a draw after 3 moves (which I accepted), but in that case it was not pre-arranged.
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