Draws and ethics

just wondering..... is it kosher to offer a draw when you know your opponent has a winning position? this happened to me recently, i declined, made my move and my opponent resigned so it was a no harm no foul situation. but what is someone mistakenly misread the situation and accepted? im curious as to what others think.

Originally posted by KDP920
just wondering..... is it kosher to offer a draw when you know your opponent has a winning position? this happened to me recently, i declined, made my move and my opponent resigned so it was a no harm no foul situation. but what is someone mistakenly misread the situation and accepted? im curious as to what others think.

I wouldn't be too harsh on someone who draws then resigns. It depends on the position. There have been times when I thought it was a draw then the next move reveals that it isn't.

Although if someone keeps offering a draw when it is clearly lost for them, then that is another story. Even then you can just play on and win.

in this game i was offered a draw four times when i had a substantial advantage.. i got infuriated, blundered, and lost. Game 2806749

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Originally posted by pootstick
in this game i was offered a draw four times when i had a substantial advantage.. i got infuriated, blundered, and lost. Game 2806749

edit: 🙂 ... 😕 ... 😠 ... 😞

It is considered bad etiquette to offer draws when you have a clearly lost position or you are considerably out-rated by your opponent. Repeated draw offers are also in bad taste. But not everybody pays attention to etiquette these days.

Originally posted by lausey
Looks painful. Out of interest, what move did your opponent start offering a draw?

If i's a position where you have some chances, you may offer the draw, but don't count on it being accepted. It is in very bad taste to make repeated draw offers.

Originally posted by KDP920
just wondering..... is it kosher to offer a draw when you know your opponent has a winning position? this happened to me recently, i declined, made my move and my opponent resigned so it was a no harm no foul situation. but what is someone mistakenly misread the situation and accepted? im curious as to what others think.

b3, Rf2 ...

i'd always be suspicious now about an opponents interests in offering a draw. i remember reading about a gm who would offer a draw early in a patently even position. opponent thinks he's missed something, refuses, and plays overaggressive. i'm sure there are some complex psychological factors in this. fair enough, war is war.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
[fen]N1bk1r2/3n2pp/p1n5/3pP3/1p1P2P1/2P1Q3/q1P4P/2KR1B1R b - - 0 21[/fen]

What did I realize when I awoke in horror at 3:00am the next morning?

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I got up, fired up Fritz, inputed the position, and mated the beast in five.

I recall I played an opponent rated about 300 points below me.

The moves were (I was white

1.d4 d5
2.c4 e6

And he offered me a draw.

Then later on, when it was my K, R, and 6p vs his K,R,and 3 P(a clearly winning position for me) he again offered a draw.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I got up, fired up Fritz, inputed the position, and mated the beast in five.

In this game the guy offered me a draw after move 5 for 3 or 4 moves in a row. I wound up timing him out for being a moron.

Game 3017016