Dutch is one of the sharpest replies to d4 if you play the Leningrad Dutch, a KID setup with the pawn already on f5.
Or you can choose a more positional approach by playing the solid Stonewall Dutch.
And there's also the Classical Dutch, which is somewhere between a Leningrad and a Stonewall in terms of aggressiveness.
Overall it's a sound yet somewhat risky opening. A good choice if you need a win with black against 1. d4. Probably the biggest drawback (at least for me) is that white has some annoying anti-Dutch systems like 1. d4 f5 2. Bg5. So you might not get to play the main lines. Especially the Leningrad Dutch is heavy on theory.
Originally posted by KalhornovYeah the 2.Bg5 Dutch is a pain & it's quite common.
Dutch is one of the sharpest replies to d4 if you play the Leningrad Dutch, a KID setup with the pawn already on f5.
Or you can choose a more positional approach by playing the solid Stonewall Dutch.
And there's also the Classical Dutch, which is somewhere between a Leningrad and a Stonewall in terms of aggressiveness.
Overall it's a sound yet somewha ...[text shortened]... o you might not get to play the main lines. Especially the Leningrad Dutch is heavy on theory.
The response I've found best is to simply chase the B away.
So:
1.d4...f5
2.Bg5...h6
3.Bh4...g5
4.Bg3
Then you're looking to develop normally with Bg7, 0-0 & should be fine.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchI don't like this line for Black at all, and it's worth pointing out that Black is probably lost after 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 h6 3.Bh4 g5 4.Bg3 f4? 5.e3! e.g. 5. ... h5 6.Be2! Nf6 7.exf4
Yeah the 2.Bg5 Dutch is a pain & it's quite common.
The response I've found best is to simply chase the B away.
So:
1.d4...f5
2.Bg5...h6
3.Bh4...g5
4.Bg3
Then you're looking to develop normally with Bg7, 0-0 & should be fine.
Originally posted by Fat LadyYes.
I don't like this line for Black at all, and it's worth pointing out that Black is probably lost after 1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 h6 3.Bh4 g5 4.Bg3 f4? 5.e3! e.g. 5. ... h5 6.Be2! Nf6 7.exf4
That's why I suggest 4...Nf6 or 4...Bg7 not 4...f4?
Chase the B back to g3 whilst expanding on KS with tempo.
Playing the Leningrad variation by default means that the rather iffy looking KS pawn structure isn't really an issue in an imbalancing defence.
For instance:
4...Bg7
5.e3...Nf6
6.Nc3...0-0
7.Bd3...e6
I think White can do better than that:
1.d4 f5 2.Bg5 h6 3.Bh4 g5 4.Bg3 Bg7 5.e4 and if 5. ... f4 then 6.Bxf4 gxf4 7.Qh5+ Kf8 8.Qf5+ Ke8 9.Be2 and I think White gets the piece back with a much superior position.
In my opinion Black's position after move 4 is overextended and a simple plan for White is to castle queenside and open up the kingside.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchAfter 2.Bg5, this is what should happen:
Yeah the 2.Bg5 Dutch is a pain & it's quite common.
The response I've found best is to simply chase the B away.
So:
1.d4...f5
2.Bg5...h6
3.Bh4...g5
4.Bg3
Then you're looking to develop normally with Bg7, 0-0 & should be fine.
1.d4 f5
2.Bg5 g6
3.c4 Bg7
4.Nc3 Nf6
5.Nf3 0-0, which transposes into the Leningrad variation.